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counterpoint mister poopy pants

 

I don't think you're wrong. But a lot of Trump voters are stupid, and they consistently vote against their self-interest as a result. It's hard not to point that out. It's human nature.

 

The information in front of you indicates members of the Trump campaign did do some things, but it there isn’t enough evidence to prosecute.

That’s what the Trumpists don’t get.

 

The amount of evidence was irrelevant because Mueller was working on the presumption Fuckboy could not be indicted regardless of the volume or content of the evidence.

 

Remember when Trump took part in a cover-up of the murder of a Saudi journalist?

 

sad soybean trombone is good, and easy to win

 

makers and takers

 

Oh, you probably do. You just won't admit the parts you don't like.

 

So Far, $1.57 Billion for Wall Yields 1.7 Miles of Fence

 

A sincere question: Is it for or against the economic self-interest for, say, the poorest 25 percent of America to be politically accepting of undocumented immigrants whose willingness to work for below-market wages and conditions hoovers up steady work that otherwise would have to be farmed out to the aforementioned poorest quartile?

I mean, liberals can talk of self interest - which, I dunno, doesn't interest me as much as other things - but they often do so in the context of socially/ideologically acceptable group interest. But I'm not actually sure undocumented immigrants working in those jobs, helps poor people. Even as the poors are supposed to be ideologically aligned against the rich, it's worth noting rich industrialists have beautifully capitalized, on purpose, on globalist trends that allow them to have factories all over the world, where workers make a fraction of what American would.

Another question: Is it wiser to make elite college expensive and baseline college completely subsidized - thus diminishing the baseline experience because everyone has access to it - or is it wiser to end all subsidization, make colleges compete on cost instead leaning on guaranteed loans, and make a baseline college degree really worth something? Is it in the self interest of poor Americans to advocate for better access to a credentialing process (which is all college has become) that quickly becomes obsolete when newer, more advanced credentials are required for certain jobs, or is it better to advocate for a system that ultimately ends "degree creep" because fewer in the workforce would be able to afford them?

 

Well, the parts I don't like is how long it took and that it didn't find enough shit to make any kind of move.

I expected as much, for what it's worth. If Mueller had found collusion - if it were that real a thing, a true slam dunk - the report would have been handed in the minute they had it cold. If you find the smoking gun, you don't go looking for fingerprints two states over for shits and giggles. So obviously they didn't find it. The discussion then turned to whether or not, over the course of expansive investigation, Trump lost his temper and good sense enough to obstruct the search for circumstantial evidence in lieu of the smoking gun. And, I dunno, yes, let's say he did. I can read that in the report, that Trump inferred. But, Jesus, inference of obstruction? Or, "well, he wanted to but nobody listened." This is what we got after 2 years?

It's as good a reason as any why Trump can't be president for four more years. He can't get a thing done. His guts are hated in every nook and cranny of government. The body has rejected the liver transplant, so to speak.