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One tried on a baseball field in Virginia a few years ago, and thankfully nobody but the gunman was killed and nobody has reciprocated thus far.

 

Take it up with the school district that gave it to her. She got the best deal she could possibly get for herself. Well, her union did. They did their jobs.

You still haven't come close to providing a reasonable explanation why employees of private companies are worthy of pensions through their employees but public employees are not. I really hate agreeing with JC, but it does seem like selfishness and jealousy on your part.

 

The right wing has kept most of the nation hunkered down since the militia days of the early 1990s with nonstop muttering about "the tree of liberty" and "second amendment solutions."

 

You claim to mean what you write, but you certainly don't show it in the content of what you write. You clearly do begrudge them that money or you wouldn't be complaining about it.

Also, just because my perspective on this is different from yours does not mean I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm simply coming at this from a position of wanting to be fair to public employees. You are coming at it from a position of not caring if they get screwed because you think they are getting too much.

Please kindly take your assertion that I don't know what I'm talking about and stick it where the sun does not shine. Thank you.

 

They were also mismanaged by dipshits. Pennsylvania's school employees retirement system (PSERS) is jointly funded by the school districts and employees, with both sides kicking in 7 percent of an employees' salary.

Except that they weren't. When the stock market was dot.com booming in the 1990s the legislature told the districts "hey man, your investments are kicking so much ass that you don't need to kick anything in." They didn't offer the workers the same deal.

Now - shocker shocker - the system is underfunded.

 

The meter maids are paying for it if they are customers of the company for which you work. That's the part you are ignoring. You are a customer of the municipalities in which you live. Your taxes are what you pay for the services those municipalities provide. If you don't like what you pay for those services, don't be a customer there.

Despite your selfish thought process, public employees deserve the same rights you have.

 

America - I want mine, but fuck yours.

 

Actually, both discussions center around the idea of equal opportunity. In both discussions, you also find yourself on the side that opposes equal opportunity.

 

That's not how it works. At all.

My wife took at job at a public university. It didn't pay as well as similar private sector jobs she had held, but she had a number of employers either go bust or be bought in a corporate takeover, resulting in either layoffs or the closing of the local branch. Working for the state was far more secure, and it came with that rare thing (even rarer now) a defined benefit pension. Her benefits were a bit costly but extremely high quality. Her job was the rock in our marriage, something that we could depend on to provide a decent income and most of the benefits. She put up with all sorts of state bureaucracy BS and idiot managers/supervisors through the years, did her job well and was dependable as hell.

She put in twenty-nine years in good faith, and when she retired she claimed the benefits she bargained for and earned. It's not the state employee's fault (union or not, she was not) if the state lege is too stupid to pay into their pension fund properly. Nothing pisses me off faster than one is in a financial tight and they start talking about cutting back on earned benefits. Do they plan to refund years of someone's life in exchange for shorting them after they have lived up to their half of the deal?

She willingly traded a shot at a higher income for the long term bargain of future financial security. That was the deal.

 

Talking about "All the righties have the guns" ... I'm curious how Civil War II will break down. I'm not sure the military will split like it did in 1861 because the logistics are completely different. Back then all you needed was a rifle and a few horses and cannon, and a good general who understood battlefield tactics. The theater will be different too because you have to add the red intermountain states to the South, and many residents of those who've moved in this modern age will remain loyal to the Union. The U.S. military will be reduced to the role the British military was forced to play during The Troubles.

In short, I think Civil War II will be a guerilla war for lack of a better term. Asymmetrical warfare executed on both sides, and it will not be tidy. Lone wolf attacks, loose militia gangs and a lot of innocent targets who are targeted because of their political stances. Regular law enforcement will shrug its shoulders and cry uncle.

Pardon me, I need to leave now so I can start a manuscript.

 

Ex-federal prosecutor predicts court won't side with Trump on congressional subpoenas

 

I hope that you are wrong, but something on that order is what I fear.