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That possible is for you, not him. I doubt he thinks it's merely possible, but probable.

And even if it was probable for what you'd view as the wrong reasons, it's still possible that it's probable.

I think Douthat would argue that, the way America is oriented, women who stay home with their children are made to feel less than because they feed into sexist tropes. Simultaneously, if women work, they're nevertheless asked to be super parents who entertain and amuse and supervise their children all the time - or contract to have them amused/entertained/supervised - because we live in a surveillance society that can suggest or even, in some cases, require, under the penalty of law, automatic reporting of perceived neglect. A 8-year-old playing alone at the park two blocks from his house...where are his parents?

 

Or it could just be the immense downward pressure of capitalism on every American.

It's possible!

 

I would love to see this supposed criticism of stay-at-home moms. I want to see their reasoning.

 

There are many people who are dismayed to watch their own religion espouse positions which require contortions to make fit the teachings of Christ, abandoning everything they were taught in Sunday School as children. Pedophile priests, protected by the church hierarchy for decades. Rich churches who do little charity work while overtly campaigning for political candidates. The "prosperity gospel", where preachers teach that Christ wants his followers to get rich, and oh by the way, I have this fund to raise money to replace my piddly Lear Jet with a new Gulfstream so I can better do God's work worldwide.

The hypocrisy of Evangelicals in lockstep supporting Trump, who got divorced after getting his lover pregnant, then divorced that wife after getting his next side piece pregnant, then did it a third time with his current wife, and then got caught making a payoff to a porn star, let alone his non-stop lies and business fraud, is odious. Brown children in cages, their families deported, and no records extant as to who the parents are or where they are now, there is nothing Christian in that.

"Suffer the little children to come unto me." "It is easier for a camel to pass through a needle's eye than for a rich man to enter heaven." "Love thy neighbor as thyself." There are so many bedrock Christian precepts which go utterly ignored in service of racial prejudice, the greed for profits, and political gain that ordinary people are disgusted and turned off to the faith. The Republican Party is theoretically the party of conservative white Christians, and it espouses and tries to push into law un-Christian beliefs and actions, and they cede the moral high ground when they do.

That's not to say that the Dem's are a lot better, that they don't also offend against those precepts - but at least they seem to care about feeding and educating children, seeing to it that poor families eat, that people are able to afford health care. Much of that is a stark contrast to a Republican party led by zombie-eyed granny starvers and people whose primary concern is that the people with the most income pay smaller to no taxes on it.

Abortion is and ever shall be divisive, although I'll note that when a well-off family's 14 year old daughter gets knocked up their beliefs often become more flexible. Even if they do support her and keep or adopt out that infant, they have far more options than a family living on the edge, paycheck to paycheck.

 

It is possible.

It all lines up in your worldview, I'm sure. Good luck with the angles and conspiracies.

 

Angles and conspiracies?

 

I agree with this.

Democrats could capture millions and millions of votes - securing so many of its cherished ideas - with a change on the abortion issue. Christians are ready. They're full-on disillusioned with the Republican Party. Some will vote blue regardless of any changes to the Democratic platform. But if you wanted to clinch it, to change so many things in America, a change on that one issue - just that one - would secure it.

But it's not going to happen. Ever. It's the keystone issue of the Democratic Party. Sacred.

 

Yes. You're confident you know how it all fits together, confident of all the villains and all the saints on the stage, and I wish you luck in it.

 

I'm not confident in how any of it fits together.

You seem pretty certain of the villains, however. They're on their sunporches with their copies of the Sunday New York Times.

 

Speaking of which, here's a Slate corrective to this Times piece.

There’s No Boom in Youngstown, but Blue-Collar Workers Are Sticking With Trump

 

So when Dems support established law they are somehow driving people away from the party and in your view they should ignore what they believe in order to attract your kind? I am confused. and my head hurts.