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Well, this sudden rush of concern is because the current president declared this issue an emergency.

Trump is an asshole. You know it. We all know it. Obama never insulted the undocumented immigrants, never called them rapists and criminals. He wasn't perfect,, but he wasn’t an asshole about it either. That’s the difference.

 

Sure.

That the folks most "offended" by this are the same ones who told us Obama had FEMA building concentration camps for the day he'd cancel the election and declare martial law undermines the point somewhat.

 

That’s some mighty fine gaslighting.

 

That's not what gaslighting means.

Gaslighting means deceiving someone in order to convince them they're going crazy.

From the movie 'Gaslight,' 1944.

 

And that is what you are trying to do. You are pulling the “if you disagree with me, I will insinuate you are wrong because reprehensible people said something similar.” You are trying to get someone to change their mind by making them think their ideas must be crazy.

 

I'm not.

I'm noting how language is often held hostage to ideology.

 

The military folks I follow aren't entirely convinced Iran could shoot down a drone operating at 30,000 feet.

 

The US isn't the only country where empty boasting is a thing.

 

Re: The concentration camp debate

Does this mean we shouldn't refer to Andersonville as one? More than 13,000 of the 44,000 Union soldiers held there died. We're talking 100 per day. And the commander of the camp was tried and executed for war crimes.

 

The facilities being operated at the US border are concentration camps in every definition of the term. Of course Republicans don't like the term. As we've seen here, many other Americans don't because it makes them very uncomfortable. To which I say, good. BTW, Trump administration argued in federal court yesterday that an order stating the camps must be clean and sanitary did not mean they had to give detained children soap, toothbrushes or bedding. But don't call them concentration camps!

 

We’re using Glenn Beck as a defense for AOC?

I can’t stand Glenn Beck. Can you? Was it different when Glenn Beck used the term? No. And it certainly wouldn’t have been more endearing to me.