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The Trump apologists at NPR disagree. Looks like it was asked to all households as recently as 1950, on the long form sent to 1/6 of households in 1970, 1980, 1990, and 2000, and on the census's American Community Survey sent to about 3.5 million households every year since 2005. I suppose that could be spun as either, "not on the full census since 1950" or "to all households as recently as 1950 and to many households continuously since 1970," depending on your side of the argument.



As an aside, a friend who had just graduated from high school was a temp worker on the 1980 census and was amazed by how many of his coworkers made up data when they couldn't get people to respond to followup requests. That was when the long form was much longer; in 2010 it only had 10 questions, so it may be that a higher percentage of people took the trouble to respond.

 

Sorry, I don't know why that linked to a long audio file when I copied the URL from a text article. I can't seem to copy the actual article, but it's on NPR.org with this title, date, & author.

FACT CHECK: Has Citizenship Been A Standard Census Question?
March 27, 2018 8:02 PM ET

TAMARA KEITH

 

I didn’t vote for Trump so you can take your assumptions and shove them. You can’t dump that many people on overtaxed border facilities and expect them to be Holiday Inns. We also can’t take in every refugee in the world. At some point it has to stop.

 

And yet the overcrowding is so recent.

I wonder what changed?

Also, it's legal to apply for asylum. But we're detaining those folks too.

 

I "ignored" it because "ignoring it" is what we have been doing. It was the obvious third option that our inflated ego and sense of self-importance won't allow us to pursue.

And it's not a "false premise." The Russians basically said of Obama, "He does not negotiate with us; he lectures to us."

The Russians absolutely acknowledge that America has a sphere of influence. America will not acknowledge that Russia (and other nations) also have spheres of influence.

 

What a fucking mess:


Navy SEAL Chief Accused of War Crimes Is Found Not Guilty of Murder

The SEAL command initially downplayed the platoon members’ reports about the chief, and did not start an investigation of the alleged crimes for more than a year, allowing the trail of evidence to grow cold. The lead prosecutor was removed from the case in May after he was caught improperly attaching tracking software to email messages sent to defense lawyers, leaving his replacement with just a few weeks to catch up before trial. And a key witness changed his story on the stand to favor Chief Gallagher.

The witness, Special Operator First Class Corey Scott, a SEAL medic who was given immunity from prosecution by the Navy, stunned prosecutors by testifying that he, and not Chief Gallagher, had killed the captive, by covering a breathing tube inserted in the captive’s neck. His testimony also deviated in other significant ways from what he had told investigators before trial; the Navy has indicated it is considering charging him with perjury.

 

Trump has totally mismanaged the border situation. Of this there is little debate.

The question now is what to do. Address the emergency situation, yes. As quickly as possible. What then? Build facilities that can hold however many thousands of asylum requests America might get? Open borders? What?

The Democrats answer - based on the debate - is nothing short of full amnesty, zero criminalization, and perhaps blanket asylum. I haven't heard a Democrat's plans that doesn't add 10-15 million refugees over 8 years to America, all in the name of a Statue of Liberty inscription.

Is that the solution? If it is, it is. But own that. Conceive an American infrastructure for that.

 

I worked on the 1980 census during summer break as a recanvasser of initial data. I didn't make up data per se, but a lot was left to guess at. I especially dreaded rechecking large Irish families. My supervisor was highly displeased.

 

Do you believe that in a country as large as the U.S., an additional 10-15 million people is a problem? I only ask because I keep hearing about labor shortages in certain industries, and I'm thinking maybe it might not be a bad idea to get a few extra people into the mix.

 

It doesn't matter how big the country is if everyone keeps settling into a handful of overcrowded places.