President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Was essentially trying to trigger Starman into one of his infamous Mnuchin printing bunch of $100 bills for Trump thing. Weirdly didn't work.

 

Whoever said a woman would being down FATUS is looking more and more prescient.

 

What in the world makes you think he isn't?

People tell me it can't be true because:

1) it's illegal;
2) it's stupid;
3) they'd get caught
4) if they did it, potentially they could crash the world economy

... Obviously haven't been paying attention. Since when has any of that stopped him?

 

See also: The Wall, Mexico will pay for.

 

In spite of all this, he'll still get reelected if he's physically able to run and hold the office.

Gender matters, but not the way I think you think it might. Remember, 53% of white female voters pushed the button for Trump in 2016. Msot of the women who showed up for Hillary Clinton were POC.

It has more to do with recalcitrance in the face of evidence that people have been duped and they made a mistake. To admit to that is to give what will seem like yet another of many points to the liberals. It adds to the weird sense of aggrieved entitlement that is thick on the ground in Red states. At all levels of SES and education, there is some variation of "Get a brain, Morans!" that gets lobbed over and over by Trump supporters. Some of it- a lot of it, really, comes from some surprising sources. People who have been circumspect in the past are now aggressively hateful in public discourse. Maybe they were always this way and I just never noticed because we had so much else in common.

We keep saying it's all due to Russian interference. I'm sure they played a part, but they couldn't have done it without our help. This is not because of the players. Election interference happens because an outside force sees vulnerability and takes advantage of it. We've done it to other countries, now it has happened to us. It can't take place if there isn't considerable moral and cultural decay. The biggest cultural divide deepened during the Obama years. The whataboutism going on now points to something troubling. It's almost as if the people who applaud the current administration want to punish their own country for the offense of electing a Black man. When Russia came along, it was probably like turning over an old log and seeing a thousand cockroaches scatter. Their opinion of us must be pretty low.

I write this as someone who holds out hope for more of those moments when people could and did reach across the aisle to do good. On a local level, it happens when we address feeding people who are food insecure, putting books in hands, and helping protect our wild spaces. Much of it is couched in religion, once again, not in ways those of you unfamiliar with my part of the country probably imagine it to be. Religion is an ambient thing that permeates nearly all of what we do here.

What would be great would be to see some people have Saul of Taursus moments. What if some of these leaders woke up one morning and it really hit home to them that they could do so much good? Maybe it's Dickensian fancy. It's not something we can pin much hope on, but it would be the ideal ending to this dark period.

 

Couldn't agree more with your point about punishment for electing a black man president (twice!). That was so traumatic for many Americans, they HAD TO HAVE a birther replace him. Not just any birther, but one that routinely displayed the negative characteristics they said Obama had. Trump is stupid, weak, lazy, undeserving of the office, inexperienced, flatters dictators, is controlled by foreign interests, is thoroughly un-American and a genuine threat to national security.

 

And tariffs, paid for by China.

A couple of weeks back, I ordered online a couple of backpacks and lunch containers for my kids for school this fall.

As I was checking out, it had the subtotal, tax, shipping, and something I haven't seen spelled out before: "Tariff fees"

Clicked on it, and it explained some of the materials were made in China, are subject to tariffs and they have to pass the cost on.

 

RE: Bill Lee signing the Forrest proclamation....

Bill Lee is a dumbass who should have never been governor. The only reason he won the Republican primary is because the leading candidate (Randy Boyd) got dragged into the mud by a Trumpkin (Diane Black). Their ads were all about proving how they could out Trump the other. Even the Trumpanzees of the state said, "too much."
Should there be a proclamation? I don't see a real reason for it, so no. If this was such a big deal, though, why hasn't their been hand-wringing in any of the prior 47 years as required by state law? Republican and Democrat governors have apparently signed them since the law was passed. Lee could have been the one to say no, but what is the penalty if a sitting governor openly violates state law? I don't know the answer to that. The ire should be cast at the General Assembly for not repealing the law. I say that as someone who is openly hostile toward Bill Lee and gave money to his Democrat opponent in the general election.

As for Forrest (and I don't have a real thought toward him one way or the other), what both the PC crowd and neo-Klan conveniently ignores or is ignorant of is that he openly tried to destroy the KKK. Yes, he started it. Every news story stops right there. They don't report that his first general order was to ditch the robes and masks and later worked with the governor to stop what was going on. History isn't black and white.
I'm not well enough read on Fort Pillow to give an educated comment on what happened and what didn't. I have read opposing views. Only two Confederates were executed as war criminals after the war: Henry Wirz, the commandant at Andersonville, and Champ Ferguson, a partizan guerrilla. If Forrest was the devil he is made out to be, he would have been hanged. Remember, if the south had one, Sherman would be the one painted as the war criminal.

In short, will all the crap going on in our country, a dipshit state governor signing a meaningless proclamation is much ado about nothing.