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Jeffrey Epstein, dead

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Michael_ Gee, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Lots of dull Occam’s razors being used on this.
     
  2. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    If Epstein really had any information that would destroy Clinton, Team Fatfuck would have gone to the ends of the earth to keep him alive.
     
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  3. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    What if he also had info on Trump? Tougher consideration then.
     
  4. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    They'd discount it as "he's lying."

    Although of course if he implicated Clinton, it would be the gospel truth.
     
  5. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

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  6. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    Not for nothing, every photo of Epstein and his
    signature smirk just screamed PERVERT, didn't it?

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  7. Fred siegle

    Fred siegle Well-Known Member

    I’ve always been a big Kennedy conspiracy believer. Mafia, Cubans, the military-industrial complex.
    Our volleyball nationals were in Dallas this year, so of course I went with several different groups to the site. There were a couple things I’ve always believed that contributed to my belief in the conspiracies. One was the fact that Oswald didn’t shoot while Kennedy was coming towards him, what I thought would be an easier shot than the short distance he had once the limo turned to drive away from where he was in the window. The other was how close the fence (that might have hid the “ real shooters” is to where the killing happened.
    This year one of my visits was with a father of a player, the father is a police officer and former military. He said it’s very likely Oswald didn’t have a clear shot at Kennedy as the limo drove toward him because Kennedy was in the back seat, with the governor in front of him. The shot going away would have been clear. That also makes me rethink “the man behind the fence” since that shot might also have been obstructed by Connolly. The dad also said anyone with military experience would have had no trouble getting the number of shots off.
    But none of that explains ruby, the ridiculous lack of a plan oswald had to get away, etc. I’m still all- in that it wasn’t a “lone gunman”.
    By the way this was my sixth visit to Dallas and I’ve been to Dealey plaza about 20 times in my 6 trips there. (All for volleyball tournaments)
     
  8. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    I have no doubt Oswald was involved, but there are two things that make the conspiracy argument convincing to me and they have nothing to do with ballistics or shot angles or any of the stuff I memorized when I was the office manager of a group lobbying to reopen the investigation in the early-mid70s (1974-76). 1. We've had a LOT of experience with lone assassins since then and all of them have pretty much been happy to say they did it, the El Paso slime being the latest example. Led into custody Oswald was different. He said "I'm a patsy" and asked for a specific attorney. 2. Obviously Oswald murdered in basement of police station by low-level mob bagman. Bagman got in because corrupt/incompetent Dallas cops saw a payday face. But how'd the feds let him get there? It stinks, it has always stunk, and that is why for almost 60 years, 75-80 percent of the American people have said the Warren Commission was a crock.
     
  9. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

    When I saw Dealey Plaza, the thing that struck me is how small it seemed after seeing it on TV for years. The shots from the sixth floor seemed a lot more doable seeing it in person.
     
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  10. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    It looks like dumping a crate of books on Kennedy would've been more effective than shooting.
     
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  11. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Lawrence Phillips. Aaron Hernandez.
     
  12. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Over the years, dozens of recreational deer hunters have told me the shots would be a piece of cake for any reasonably good shot -- and Oswald tested out as an excellent marksman in the Marines.

    The main question most of them have was the speed of getting off three shots in sequence. "Tough but certainly not impossible," most say.


    Ehhhh... let's not derail this one with a JFKjack.
     
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