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I'm with Ragu on this.

It'd be better if government pulled entirely out of the higher ed business, guaranteed nothing, made the banks do it, and, when the banks balked on backing loans for kids with 2.9 GPAs, the schools would be forced to lay off all the mid-level administrative suits and reduce tuition.

 

So I’m sitting in Chemotherapy with my wife for the 24th time this year. And it occurs to me that I’ve never seen a single God damn pro-lifer offering support. I’ve never seen a single Christian go out of their way to help a stranger in need. After 24 weeks of seeing old and young, male and female, black, white, Asian, Hispanic ... I’ve never once seen a fucking pro-life evangelical Christian show up to a help a single soul. This is the only non hospital chemo location in an areas of 400,000 people. Not a single conservative has the fucking ability to put their fat asses where the fat mouths are

 

New vagina in town. Love the working girl 'do.

 

Yes. Canada has pissed away all that money on education and health care when they could have been spending it on prisons and weapons systems.

 

Dangerous. This assumes that everyone who wants to be a welder can find high paying welding jobs.
This is the mindset that has helped kill education.
Now that it has been weakened by Trumpist /SEC state legislatures, it is prime for attack. Perfect.
College is still the best way of securing a future. It has become too expensive at state institutions because Trumpist ideology has whacked an average of 16% of state funding. The solution is not to encourage everyone to become a plumber but to fund these colleges.

 

I do think there is a difference between being "free" and something being debt free. Student loans should be capped at a certain amount. Cap loan amounts to $15k a year and some schools will suddently become a lot more affordable. The name brands will still charge whatever they want - but Directional-directional-State or LiberalArts College will figure they can do without bells and whistles.
It's not like all colleges are doing well. A lot of them are fighting for survival.

How many colleges and universities have closed since 2016?

 

The real republicans and Conservatives send their kids to private prep schools while promoting home schooling and for profit charter schools. They are advocating vocational training in lieu of university educations. It is intended to foment literal class divisions in the country. In 2 generations there will be a landed gentry, a professional class and everyone else. In 4 generations there will be a violent uprising. And the US in the mid 2100’s will make the French and Russian revolutions look like a boys scout water ballon fight.

 

Now that I’m more of a geezer, set in my ways and used to routines, I’m beginning to believe that rapid sweeping changes on any broad-based system (be it healthcare, immigration or education) are fraught with the potential for errors and unintended negative consequences.

I think that the better approach would be more of an agreement of what goals should be accomplished, then steady measured steps toward that goal.

It might be that a better America could be found somewhere at a point between what we have now and “free” college, healthcare or immigration (or what we have now and an impenetrable wall).

That might not be possible now that the Democrats seem to run screaming to the left during the primaries and the face of the GOP is a self-obsessed jingoistic isolationist nationalist shill for corporate interests.

 

Oggie, that's how the system works in practice. Presidents run and get elected by aspirational proposals, but progress towards the aspirations is determined by Congress and the courts. As a result, much of our government seems kludgy because it is built to produce kludges. If Warren or Sanders is elected, they'll be lucky if they can add a public option to Obamacare, forget Medicare for All. Works both ways. Republicans controlled the White House and Congress in 2017-2018 after an election where they promised to repeal and replace Obamacare. They couldn't, because the national friction of the system stopped them.