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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    You also let poor people go bankrupt or die when they are sick.

    You are back with a vengeance.
     
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  2. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Is it just me or has all that Trump hair dye and orange bronzer melted Dobbs brain. I get it - say nice things about the President, the President watches you and advertisers will pay exta to get their messages in front of the President.
     
  3. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    Evangelicals support a blasphemer.



    Love the impeachment runner too.
     
  4. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

    yes but when they graduate they get jobs that pay in canadian money so they lose in the end keep your socialism and legalized weed over there well maybe not the weed
     
  5. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    The right will flip-flop on private firearm ownership once the wind starts blowing that direction.
     
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  6. typefitter

    typefitter Well-Known Member

    I agree that we pay more taxes than Americans would be willing to pay, because Americans are weirdly anti-tax. They can't see the benefits of paying higher taxes, even with so many of their fellow Americans putting up GoFundMe pages to pay for their cancer treatment and their infrastructure being a hot pile of crumbling garbage.

    If Americans spent less on weapons, however, and more on each other, you could get closer to right.

    Besides that point, yes, Canadians have a high level of debt right now, mostly because of skyrocketing real estate, not because of high taxes. And while my education was subsidized, I was therefore able to earn a good living, and so have more than paid my fair share in taxes. I've contributed more than I took, which is the point of a reasonably priced education. My fellow Canadians made an investment in me, and I have given them a good return on it.

    I have also used our hospitals quite a bit, as well as their American counterparts, and I noticed no difference in the quality of care, another weird American myth. Luckily, my fellow Canadians recognize that some very large percentage of us, sooner or later, will require medical care, and it's better to know that it will be there for you and pay for it in the meantime than to NOT PAY THE DAMN GUBMINT and then be up shit's creek when the sickness comes for you.

    It's weird for me that you, someone who understands the point of investment, can't grasp it on a societal level. I've always been totally happy to pay taxes. I see what I, and my fellow Canadians, get for them. I live in a better place because of them. Why wouldn't I want to pay them? It makes no sense. I can't live in a bubble with my money. I have to go out into the world. I'll pay taxes to make sure when I do, I'm not headed out into some dystopian shithole. It's the simplest math, and I will never understand why so many Americans fail to grasp it.
     
  7. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    And yet we seem to waste a lot of time arguing the poles of any issue: If I don’t support forgiving all student debt and free college, I must want only the rich to be educated; If I think that healthcare has problems, I must think that there should be no private insurance; If I think that our immigration system is unfair and causes suffering, I must be for entirely open borders.

    Chances are that real solutions are not black-and-white, but are in the gray soup somewhere in between.

    Folks who argue for moderation and compromise don’t seem to win national elections.
     
  8. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

  9. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

  10. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    That's how the process works. Imagine a presidential candidate or candidate for Congress running on a platform of "I'll always seek compromise with my opponents on the following vital issues." He or she would never get out of a primary in either party. Elections are about presenting goals. What happens after that is the grinding of the legislative process, where steps forward towards a goal are about all that can be accomplished. I should note that when a party in the legislature rejects compromise, as the Republicans did with Obama, then they have no kick coming if the other side concludes it can only make progress towards its goals though hyperaggressive proposals without considering the opposition's point of view. Actions breed equal and opposite reactions.
     
  11. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    Fake FATUS Christian rapey-racist anti-semite serial bankruptor immigrant-abusing contractor-stiffing pedo pal corrupt demented would-be tinhorn dictator freak.
     
  12. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    You chalk up your considerable writing and reporting talent to college? That's where you got it?

    On day one, you could probably write and report better than most of your teachers, and I'm not being flattering. I imagine it's objectively true.
     
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