Thoughts and Prayers: The Religion Thread

There was one poster on page five writing that G-d is not worthy of discussion and you drawing a false equivalence between that and religion not being worth talking about. It was not two pages of that.

We are talking about religion on this thread. That you don't like some of the places that conversation is going does not change the fact.

Also, your last sentence was condescending and rude to the beliefs of others. You attaching angst, hatred and bitterness to non-believers. Non-believers have a place in a discussion of religion whether you like it or not and their opinions deserve respect. You keep complaining about others not respecting your beliefs, yet you aren't respecting theirs, either. If you want the conversation to go in a certain direction and function in a certain way, post that way.

 

Christianity deserves to get slapped around. It’s a disgusting hateful genocidal perverted abomination for 1700 years. Dark and Middle Ages are directly tied the practice of Christianity. Chattel slavery and involuntary servitude are directly tied to Christianity. Though they didn’t invent slavery that went full bore into using Christ to justify. Mass executions, mass rapes, mass child abuse all at the feet of perverted dictators, King’s and popes wrapped in biblical authority to carry out century upon century of holocausts and wars without end.

Compared to other religions, Christianity, the practice, not the words of Christ, is the worst belief or governmental system in 2000 years. Because the Christian religion as practiced has so very little to do with Christ. You all should worship Paul, it’s his religion your obey.

 

I'm not complaining; it's to be expected. Hell; when Christians are doing Christianity right, it's darn near planned for. Christians have had great fortune in America, now it is turning, and so it goes. I'm not bummed about it. But it's what's gonna happen.

I fully expect non-believers to have any and all opinions - especially about Christianity. I don't care that 'yab hates Christianity; I think he's wrong, and misguided in his criticism, but I'm not searching for where he is on it. Thus far, his posts are some of the most interesting, honest posts on here.

The science-y stuff ITT isn't that interesting. It's not. It's soft-pedaled secular humanism. Real science is hard, and has no feelings - the black hole is the black hole, it doesn't give a fuck if it swallowed up a beautiful star or any and all of us, it doesn't know what giving a fuck is, it's a black hole - and would immediately lead us harsh, dramatic solutions on, say climate change, if you're so inclined to believe we're on the brink of global disaster.

What I also want to mirror in Christianity is "what it is and what it isn't" because, for many long years - in the name of being "winsome" - Christians have been prone to support in America whatever won them mainstream power and appeal. We coupled with the right, and what a mess that has become. We will now couple with the left, and it won't be any better, all the while worried about our reputation with non-believers in a way that secretly suggests we're more interested in the world than the God we worship.

 

I don't know why Jesus's words would be any more valid than Paul's, if Paul's are all lies.

 

Jesus is the single deity who created the universe and all that is in it. Paul is a human religious zealot with a political design on humanity. I don’t know why you equate Jesus and Paul? Unless you understand that Jesus was a patsy and unwitting martyr imbued after his death with the myth of the divinity. And Paul led a splinter faction inventing a gentile quasi-monotheistic religion. Which over time became a political force used to oppress the masses for the enrichment of the church/oligarchy of Europe

 

Not according to Christianity. “I am the way, the truth and the light. No one passes to the Father except through me.”
Sounds exclusionary to me.

 

Pretty narrow minded God. He created everything but couldn’t create a unifying religion? Doesn’t seem all powerful to me.

 

Non Christians don’t believe that.

Christians do. Or they should. Christianity is not one of the cooler and more exciting religions to be a part of. If one thinks there are other ways, they’re probably more exciting.

 

Soviet era anti-religious propaganda.

Down with God! How the Soviet Union took on religion – in pictures

 

That was quite a change from the previous era, where the population was told to obey the tsar because he was ordained by God.

 

My mom was a lifelong Methodist and went to church every Sunday when possible. She was a believer. She certainly could have used a little help from a kind and benevolent God the past two weeks while going though hospice care, when she couldn't eat and was doped up 24/7 on about three different opiates to ease her pain in her final days. If God had a plan for her, I sure wish he would have let her know last week, instead of only this morning.

 

I’m sorry for her suffering and your loss.