President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Also: The GOP didn’t make this guy president. The American people did, including lots of “former Democrats” who walked away over the years for various reasons. (Some for the wrong, immoral reasons.)

Trump was America’s way - especially Republicans’ way - of saying “whatever you’ve been giving us, we don’t want, so we will pick the guy who more or less says he’s the devil because, at least with him, we know the score.” I’m not upholding that choice - it’s darkly nihilistic, in a way - but it’s where whole parts of America were. Our aristocracy/leadership class/political class has stunk for 20 years. It’s bloated, self-satisfied, in a bubble, more concerned with Kurdish fighters than black American lives in Chicago or Baltimore, full of empty promises on 12 different fronts and seemingly, utterly entrenched in their wealth and static comfort. And they lie - not in the clumsy blowhard ways Trump does - you can smell his gas a mile off - but in sophisticated, intellectual ways. Paul Ryan ways.

They put Trump there knowing full well his flaws. They still do and I think he’ll lose because his flaws have grown and come to dominate every waking moment of politics, which isn’t good for anyone.

 

FATUS -- always playing up to the back of his baseball card

 

Yes, awful. Do something about it.

 

He's quite concerned.

 

Not sure what any of this has to do with the topic at hand. You like to blame the "woke" left for the country's current state, but the "woke" left is a recent phenomenon. That's the point I was making. Meanwhile, Trump is the Frankenstein of a 25+ year effort on the part of the GOP to ingrain in their base a primal Fear of a Minority/Gay/Clintonian Planet. He is the Fox News viewer who seized control of the asylum. None of that was a reaction to wokeness. I suppose you can argue that the Woke Left is the Dems' own Frankenstein. But it's disingenuous to pretend that the Woke played an equal role in driving us to this point.

Regarding the other point: Woke Secularism and Conservative Christianity are both extreme religions that are equidistant from the center. Both are dogmatics that impede sound/rational policy making with their hardline adherence to ideals. To an extraterrestrial, both would appear equally delusional/crazy. The Woke Left just seems more delusional/crazy to you because you happen to believe in the Christian Right's world view.

 

Again, the problem isn't Trump (voters).

The problem is the criticism of Trump (voters).

 

My mistake, I had thought Brown had failed in at least one Ontario election. I still think he lacked personality or any kind of presence though.

Yes I agree he would have beaten the Liberals last year, but so could have I.

 

If I’m the Democrats, I use the phrase “quid pro quo” so many times it becomes the three-word protest mantra. Wear it on t-shirts.