2019-20 college football coaching carousel

Norvell is the best hire of the bunch by far. He is going to be awesome.

 

The headline possibilities in the Seuss holiday season are immense.

 

I'm not sold on Norvell at FSU. I don't think he's got the recruiting chops to get the players needed. That's not an underachieving roster, it's a 6-6 roster with no offensive line, no pass rusher and a defense that can't force turnovers.

He's going to be behind the eight-ball recruiting for this 2020 class and combine that with Taggart being behind the eight ball with the 2018 class, that's FSU having one full recruiting class in the past four years.

 

Who would be better that was realistic (e.g. not Franklin). Not Campbell. Maybe Jeff Scott, who looks like he’s leaving Clemson to become HC at USF. But they weren’t going to hire a coordinator.

Get some guys — and retain Odell, Dugans, etc. — with Florida ties on staff and he can hold his own by default. It’s not Mullen that’s keeping Florida in the Top 10 in 247, it’s the infrastructure and brand around him.

 

Here's my thing. I thought Miami screwed up by hiring Manny Diaz when they should've just put all their chips on the table for Cristobal. The Miami job was his dream job and even though he was sour at the administration from a time before, he would've come back I believe. Instead he'll just win Pac-12 titles at Oregon and let Manny celebrate 6-6 seasons with fake jewelry. That's what happens when you settle for something less than what you really want.

FSU fired a coach after 21 games, who inherited a pretty shitty situation on and off the field, and took a month long search and begged boosters for more money to hire Mike Norvell? They could've done that in a week's time. Me personally I think they should've hired Mark Stoops, but they screwed that up by courting Bob who wasn't interested. Stoops was a DC there, recruited up and down the state and he has showed at Kentucky he can build a strong roster. He won what 7-8 games at Kentucky this year playing a single wing with a WR at quarterback a year after losing a ton of starters off an 10-win team. I'm not surprised FSU screwed this up because they don't have an Athletic Director, at least not a real one, but their goal was to get an established coach with a championship pedigree and instead they got Mike Norvell, who is 0-4 against UCF.

BTW it's a lot of McElwain's recruits that's keeping Florida in the Top 10. They had gold in kids like Trask, who wouldn't have gotten a sniff of the field if Franks didn't get injured. All those skill players are about gone though and you saw Florida's crappy offensive line as more of the guys Mullen brought in started taking the field.

 

Norvell is kind of a weird hire. Seems like everywhere he's coached has been a red-headed stepchild of a program, Tulsa, Memphis, Arizona State, Pittsburgh - I'm sure that background, where you have to make do and don't have a ton of recent success to build on will do him well at FSU, whether he "fits the suit" or not doesn't really matter. I was half expecting Ark or Mizzou to mistakenly hire the other Norvell (no relation). Aside from wins as an HC (he's 18-19), he's got a much better pedigree (Iowa, Oklahoma, the Raiders, , the Colts, Iowa State, Nebraska, UCLA, Texas and Arizona State).

 

But at Memphis, Justin Fuente swallowed the shit burger that was left and turned that thing around quickly. Norvell was able to jump on there and sustain success.

FSU is a rebuild, in a much harder situation with better competition and 2020 schedule is hard. Got Boise, West Virginia and Florida on the non-conference.

 

Yeah, but have you seen the ACC part of the schedule?

 

No way in hell Arkansas was hiring Harsin, an Arkansas State ex. The same reason they wouldn't hire Malzahn if he dropped in their lap. Some prejudices outlive Frank Broyles.

 

It's still harder than anything in the fucking AAC. As bad as FSU was they would've won 10 games in the shit American conference where no offensive lineman would've been able to block Marvin Wilson or Cory Durden.

The ACC isn't great by any stretch but they have Clemson and they are going get wrecked. Louisville is going to be a lot better in year two under Satterfield and N.C. State should be a hell of a lot better next year. All of a sudden it's another 6-6 season, maybe 7-5 if they stay healthy.

 

Agree on Miami.

Taggart had some issues that were in his control, unfortunately. Mostly organizationally that caused him to lose a lot of support quickly.

I think Mark Stoops could have been fine. I think Norvell will be fine. At least he has credibility in the coaching community and pundit class Taggart didn’t have. It might not end up being worth much, of course.

Appreciate your responses. Pretty clear you’ve got some insight into the program, even when I disagree.

 

Likewise!