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I’ve come to the conclusion that perhaps the only hope for impeachment success involves Lindsey Graham binge watching “Game of Thrones” while huffing testosterone over Christmas break and orchestrating a grand scheme, preferably involving dragons, to regain his stolen manhood that culminates in Graham marching off the Senate floor with Trump’s political head on a pike after which Graham is torn to bits by the dogs of all that is right and just for his unforgivable past betrayals.

 

There is no hope for impeachment success, despite what others say, I don't believe there's any hope of getting him out of office before January 2025. The Republicans will rig the fuck out of this next election to ensure that. Maybe that's tin-foily, but I don't have a lot of hope.

 

Trump remains a slight underdog for re-election. The economy is all that's keeping him from being a dead duck. As for impeachment, it's worth remembering neither of the two impeachment trials of a President ended with conviction. And Andrew Johnson was way more unpopular than was Trump. Avoidance of personal accountability is Congress' prime directive and has been since 1789.

 

Here's a piece in rapturous praise of Thunberg:

Why Greta Makes Adults Uncomfortable

Her answers were direct but earnest. She sometimes searched for an English word. Unlike politicians and book-touring authors who have been brain-poisoned by media training, she answered the questions posed. When I asked whether there was a climate fact that caused her particular worry, she frowned and first said she could not think of any one fact in particular. Then she added that she was worried about what she’d heard would be in the upcoming UN Intergovernmental Panel report on sea-level rise. Same, Greta.

She is strikingly nonradical, at least in tactics. Unlike other young climate activists—such as members of the Sunrise Movement in the United States, which is led by college students and early 20-somethings—she rejects specific policy proposals such as the Green New Deal, instructing politicians instead to “listen to the science.” She has even declined to endorse a specific platform in the European Union, where her “Fridays for Future” movement has taken hold. When I asked how other teenagers should fight climate change, she said, “They can do everything. There are so many ways to make a difference.” Then she gave, as examples, joining an activist movement and “also to, if you can, vote.”

When I wondered aloud whether young people’s rights are underrepresented in the political system, she demurred. “Sometimes it feels that way, yeah,” she said. “The problems we care about the most are usually not the ones that are being prioritized the highest. Young people are very concerned about the climate crisis and ecological crisis, and that is very underrepresented.”

Now, you could read that and think "well, she's absolutely not being leveraged because she doesn't trot out any specific policies." But, in reality, policy is how anything changes - or at least you'd hope it does. Change by mass thrust of revolution - through majority vote or something else - generally destabilizes a given people, makes them factional and prone to whichever strongman/stronggroup yells loudest and best and, ultimately, gets the most worked up.

Thunberg herself seems like a fundamentally sincere person who's not pretending to be a policy expert and been encouraged to embrace a most extreme style of living/political activising because her monasticism or whatever you'd like to call it is viewed through a near-religious prism. The Time article, unintentionally or not, even renders her godlike, in the hull of a yacht, a storm outside, the calm at the center. It should bother people, but the upper reaches of non-conservative media has become so drunk on progressivism that it works backwards from "climate change is the issue of our time" toward the Thunberg activism, not outward from it.

 

The only way Graham goes back to how he was before that round of golf with Trump is if the Democrats say "We've got the same dirt on you that Trump does. Either way, it's going to be public soon. So do you want to be in the history books as a hero who put country first or the guy blackmailed into letting all this happen?"

 

A lot of people approach climate change as an exercise in feigned moral superiority.

I mean, I'd have to think Greta Thunberg, zero emissions yacthing vegan climate monk, would say "absolutely" if asked whether or not American sports teams should cease all air travel between sporting events. There are, I'd guess, hundreds of flights weekly shuttling the east bum state team over to Craptown U. Big Ten/ACC challenge? Climate change!

All the ordinary things people could do each day - like not taking the family to Disneyland on a plane. Or ceasing all foreign exchange programs that do not including a zero emissions yacht trip. And so on and so on.

 

Actually, according to the article in The Atlantic you cited, she doesn't seem to endorse any specific policy. The basis of her position is that climate change is real, it's happening and it's been happening. Humans have contributed to the causation and humans can contribute to the solution.

For example, the Amazon Rainforest is responsible for 20% of the Earth's rainwater. Since 1970 the rainforest has decreased by 20%.
Wide swings in polar ice cap temperature and ice coverage causing flooding and rising seas are the direct result of human actions. Will it make the most northern and southern parts of their respective hemispheres more temperate but destroying much more farm land in the current temperate zones. All this is real. And too many of the rich and powerful don't care because they buy themselves out of their immediate discomfort and die before things get worse. Mining, logging and fossil fuels should be curtailed, extensively. But lets irrationally and unintelligently impugn the motives of the messengers and call it politics.

 

And he’ll vote how?

 

He is and has always been a rather weak, soft and pliable rag doll of a politician. At the end of the day he"ll be at the White House kissing ass, as usual

 

Greta Thunberg Documentary Set On Hulu – Deadline

 

The team behind Greta has been following Thunberg from her early school strike in Stockholm all the way to parliaments and massive international protests, documenting her mission to make the world understand the urgency of the climate crisis. According to sources, Hulu boarded the project awhile back and had been involved behind the scenes while deals were being made.

Huh.

 

Did you used to work for the Tobacco Institute?