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RIP Kobe Bryant

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Driftwood, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. Tweener

    Tweener Well-Known Member

    Breaking news like this often exposes reporters and their irresponsible behavior. The upside to being right about that before it is actually confirmed is simply not worth the risk of losing credibility and looking like an idiot.
     
  2. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    No idea. I would be curious as well.

    A few years ago a pilot colleague invited a few of us on his plane for a spin around the area. I trusted him but I don't like small aircraft, having flown on a lot of them in college for trips home and such, and balked. If I'm on your plane I want you or your guy to be doing that full-time all the time and for a living, not something that's of the hobby. And I'd like to know how old that aircraft is. A helicopter shouldn't be nearly as old as the dude who owns it.
     
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  3. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Other than this take, I’m in 100% agreement with you. Cmon, he wasn't putting her in harms way anymore than we would have had we had the means.

    still not a good man.
     
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  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    It's BYH. I was afraid he would feel like he had been forgotten if nobody did.
     
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  5. BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo

    BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo Well-Known Member

    I apologize, that wasn't directed at you. It was more of a reaction to that gawdawful The Ringer piece, which has to personalize everything because Bill Simmons. You were with your family and learning about the Kobe news in bits and pieces via your phone, Shea? Congratulations. It's 2020. So was every fucking other person in the country. And it took an NBA star and his daughter dying in a helicopter crash to remind a 38-year-old man of the inherent fragility of parenthood and how not every family gets to experience the best-laid plans for growing old and happy together? Every other Dad's been thinking about the former since day one, and he's the luckiest guy on the planet re: the latter.
     
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  6. OscarMadison

    OscarMadison Well-Known Member

    One of my college jobs was working in the offices of a music-oriented attraction. When Bitsy Mooneytwitter* was hospitalized after an accident, we were mobbed by people who wanted to bring her presents, food, flowers, etc. For the first day or two, we simply turned people away. Then we found out they were creating a security nightmare over at Baptist Hospital. Her rep told us to accept everything but the food and explain that it would be given to people in various units. If someone had not had a visitor, they got flowers. New parents who weren't surrounded by family got the quilts and afghans and so on.

    When people called to ask what happened to all of that stuff and would they hear back from Mooneytwitter, I decided not to lie. I had a statement from her management thanking everyone for the thoughts and prayers and explaining that she could not possibly accept everything people brought and felt it was better to share the wealth. A few fans took it well. Many were very upset because they'd brought gifts specifically for Bitsy. If Bitsy wasn't going to get the teddy bear or braided rug they brought, they wanted it back. Yes, it was exactly as much fun as you can imagine.

    It was during this period that the Saturday late show ran very, very long. We usually got a lot of calls from people who could tell it was cut off before it was over because their local affiliate had something scheduled. I was worn out. Sometimes high emotions from fans gave the Friday and Saturday night shifts a Fort Apache vibe. At about two in the morning, we got an angry Bitsy fan. She was calling from the deep South and had a contralto-molasses voice that sounded like your Grammama's friend who was described to you as "trailer park genteel, bless her heart."

    She could not get past the idea that the rag doll she made for Bitsy was given to someone in pediatrics at either VUMC or The Baptis'.

    "You mean to tell me that I spent all that time creating a beautiful doll and not only will I never get a thank you from Bitsy, you are not even sure where it is? No, ma'am. You get me my doll back! I'll sue you people. That doll was meant to comfort Bitsy"

    At the time, my boss, Jennifer M. was seated next to me, listening in. She hit critical mass and took over the call.

    "Hello? Ma'am? This is Jennifer. Yes, I am a boss and yes I will spell my full name for you. That doll is being hugged by someone who is probably scared and in pain. She might not ever know who you are, but she knows that doll helps make things a little better. I promise you she is appreciating that doll far more than Ms. Mooneytwitter ever would. In fact, instead of trying to reach out to a celebrity who doesn't even know you exist, why don't you try to help someone who needs it?"

    The caller hung up on her, er, us. Jennifer took moment to do some deep breathing. We sat in the dimly lit office and didn't say anything, just listened to the security guards report in downstairs. Finally, Jennifer spoke.

    "That was wrong. I presumed I had the right to tell that woman how to feel. I don't. You and I and everyone else at the complex knows Bitsy Mooneytwitter is a jerk. Still, that woman gets a lot of enjoyment out of feeling some connection to her. For her, this was a chance to give back and get some reflected shine in the process. Sometimes you have to let people have their illusions, however we might feel about them."**

    She's right. I've kept that in mind when dealing with fans of all sorts. Most of them still make me shake my head.

    *Do I really have to say that isn't her real name?
    **Jennifer is one of the best bosses I had the good fortune to report to.
     
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  7. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    They just started up their Twitter again tonight. And theres is nothing on their website -- no tributes, no nothing. Just a picture of the annoucement to postpone the Clippers game. It's really wierd how they've handled this whole thing, especially for a big market / always in the eye of the public franchise
     
  8. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Yeah, I agree. When my sister's family died, I worked with the sheriff's office on if they were getting media inquiries (yes) and with my media background, what did they think would be the best approach. And they said -- and I agreed -- that we, the family should control the narrative. I took control of that, mostly to shield my family from dealing with that bullshit. And there was a lot of it.

    Yes, my now-former employer knew who it was but didn't know exactly their identities so they couldn't do hard reporting on it. And didn't. Thankfully. That wouldn't happen if I was still there today thanks to who is running that newsroom.

    So I put together a release and sent it to several media outlets the next day as well as the photos we wanted in the public domain, knowing how media outlets do (destructively) digging in such situations.

    The silence from the Lakers has been really head-scratching. I know there is shock. Trust me, I know where they are at. We're at four days, pushing five, and their silence really is incredible. They no doubt are working with the Bryant family in terms of messaging and certainly what happens when they play Friday night.

    But their silence truly is out of the norm.
     
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  9. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    #girldad is all over the place.
     
  10. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    It ain't just America. A sampling of top soccer salaries worldwide:

    Lionel Messi makes $80 million a year
    Cristiano Ronaldo makes $64 million per
    Neymar makes $70 million per
    Paul Pogba makes $20 million per
    Andres Iniesta makes $30 million per
    Alexis Sanchez makes $21.5 million per
    Kylian Mbappe makes $20 million per. He's 20.
    Mesut Ozil makes $20 million per
    Oscar makes $26.5 million per to play in China in a league I've never heard of
    Gareth Bale makes $33 million per
    Mo Saleh makes $15 million per
     
  11. Monday Morning Sportswriter

    Monday Morning Sportswriter Well-Known Member

    Late last night, the Lakers finally addressed it.
     
  12. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    As a proud girl dad, I was tempted to join in. But I worried some pervs were out there surfing hashtags and looking at the photos.
     
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