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2019-20 college football coaching carousel

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by jlee, Nov 3, 2019.

  1. HappyCurmudgeon

    HappyCurmudgeon Well-Known Member

    Fan expectations are always ridiculous, I expect nothing less of them, but the AD shouldn't be a part of the stupidity and he was. Firing a guy that goes 67-27 guarantees you're not getting a coach worth a shit to come in to follow up. Nebraska seems like the perfect place for Urban Meyer since that fanbase is willing to win at any cost.

    FWIW they are doing the smart thing now by letting Frost rebuild the roster if nothing else.
     
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  2. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    Any AD that tried to lower expectations at Nebraska would get fired immediately. The fan base, which is basically every Nebraska voter, would revolt.

    I think Frost is getting a longer string because he is is the quintessential "Nebraska" guy. But if Frost gets the program to the level of Iowa do you think he would last as long as Kirk Ferentz has? Or is he booted like Pellini?
     
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2020
  3. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Outside looking in, it seemed he was fired for a combination of not winning enough games and being a rageaholic.
     
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  4. HappyCurmudgeon

    HappyCurmudgeon Well-Known Member

    Eichorst should've gotten fired for even thinking Mike Riley was going to win games that Pelini couldn't.

    Right now there's a ceiling at Nebraska and Pelini probably hit it. It's a 9-10 win program max right now. There was a time when Nebraska played a distinctly different style football and could attract certain talents across the country, but that's no longer the case. They have to fight for the table scraps that the tippy top programs don't want and hope to develop them like everyone else.

    Frost is a pretty good recruiter and evaluator of talent so he can get good table scraps in my opinion and get them back to 8-9 wins. But Nebraska is what it is and fans can whine and cry and revolt all they want, but unless they are willing to spend $10M on Urban and give him carte blanche to do whatever it takes to win and keep their mouths shut when half the team is getting arrested during the offseason this is who they are. Honestly I think Frost was an idiot for leaving UCF for Nebraska. He was a shark in a pond at UCF in that shitty conference. He could've had a Chris Petersen-at-Boise type of run.

    So to be honest they should be so lucky to get to a level where Iowa is that they can plug in 7-8 wins every season with an occasional peak of 10 and maybe a Big 10 division title and a big upset every now and then.
     
  5. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    The original sin by Nebraska wasn't firing Pelini. It was hiring Steve Pederson as AD, who then fired Frank Solich, stated that he refused to let Nebraska, "gravitate towards mediocrity," then replaced Solich with...Bill Callahan. They'd probably still be an 8-9 win program now, but the optics on that firing were terrible. Solich was two years removed from the BCS national Championship and had just gone 9-3. Pederson then got turned down by every major target he had his eyes on because no one wanted to work for him.
     
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  6. Chef2

    Chef2 Well-Known Member

    Nebraska never should have left the Big 12.
     
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  7. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    I think the uncertainty that surrounded the Big 12 at the time of Nebraska and Colorado's departures were ample justification. And given the future of the Big 12 is probably uncertain after the expiration of the television contract in 2023 it has stood up pretty well.
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2020
  8. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    You misspelled Missouri
     
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  9. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    With USC's NCAA sanctions under Carroll - it's been over 45 years since the Pac-12 has had an undisputed national champion. (Pitt and BYU have won more recently) Big 12 has had two since since forming in 96 - though none in the last 15 years.

    I really don't think putting Oklahoma and Texas into the Pac-12 would change the current equation much.
     
  10. HappyCurmudgeon

    HappyCurmudgeon Well-Known Member

    It's just hard to find a coach worth a damn that's going to coach under the circumstances that anything less than an 11-win season is a grave disappointment. So you get the Bill Callahans and Mike Rileys of the world that were more than happy to cash a check (Riley FWIW isn't a bad coach, he was just horribly overmatched and out of his league at Nebraska).

    Pelini, for all his flaws, showed he could win the football games that Nebraska should have no business losing.
     
  11. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Nebraska’s ceiling is Iowa. Anywhere from 6-6 to 10-2 with an occasional 11-1 when everything breaks right. But their fans are too fucking delusional to see that.

    To put it another way, Nebraska is like the Roman Empire. They were really, really good a long, long time ago.
     
  12. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    Their current AD, Bill Moos, came to Lincoln from Washington State.

    If anyone should understand an FBS Power 5 school with a "ceiling," it's Bill Moos.
     
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