Thoughts and Prayers: The Religion Thread

This is some ignorant bullshit. Faith is not a crime. Some people use it to commit crimes, but that does not mean faith itself is a bad thing.

 

If that part in bold is true, then why are claiming that people who believe in G-d are as much a part of human suffering as disease and war? Perhaps you aren't even aware of what you are writing in your rage, which is understandable given your circumstances.

 

I can't think in that way. Another person's belief in god and his/her prayers are meaningless to me because those things are meaningless. Accept their kindness, fine, but it is not proof of god.

You don't like the hypocrisy and judgment that are some manifestations of people's faith and contrast that with the people who are kind and supportive while following their faith. But both of those attitudes are the same fucking thing. I don't know why you get hung up on the result. The very premise for the actions of both groups is wrong.

 

You’re partially correct and I was partially overbroad. But those who claim such a faith and don’t commit crimes certainly enable those of faith who do. All those lovely church going people who didn’t molest children certainly emboldened those that did by not bring down their wrath on the church 30, 25, 20 years ago. Or yesterday. The horrific evangelicals who use god to blame people for diseases and tornadoes and earthquakes are backed by the millions of their faithful, without whom, they couldn’t actively hurt those in need.

 

I can different those that I know personally from those that I don’t but who watch pat Robertson or donate to Jim Bakker

 

Again, that is about action, not faith. They are not the same thing.

 

proof that religion is false. This is an admission by the Catholic Church that it lies about divinity. If it were truly Holy water it would negate the virus.

 

I feel bad for the wayward nuns:
“Move over, girls, I've gotta gargle.”

[RIMSHOT]

 

Well it’s proof that holy water is false. Which, it is.

 

That's an outrageous argument. Both sides do not have the same obligations. Both sides do not have the same merit. An atheist doesn't have to prove anything. People who assert that something exists or is true have to prove it. Simply stating something may exist doesn't create the actual possibility it exists, requiring others to disprove its existence. Religion is an unfalsifiable claim. If the debate were set up as you propose, either prove or disprove, it would be impossible for an atheist to ever meet your standard.