President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

When you post crap like this, you are as bad as some of them. People like President Trump and Mitch McConnell are a huge part of the problem in this country, but this kind of hatred for the other side is also a major issue. If you tell someone they are terrible or unfairly label them a racist, most often they are going to stop listening to you and dig in. They are going to turn a blind eye to the crap on their side because you are attacking them. Even if you are right, and I don't think you are, you're losing the argument.

 

Apologies if this has been done before, but I'm [Gahhh!?!] 15 pages behind right now.
Anyway, OMG JFC WTF is this Buck turd? I had thought Colorado was better than this.

 

The great majority of "Trumpists" simply pulled the lever for "R" because Hillary and haven't given it a thought since. Come November they'll likely pull the lever for "R" again.

They don't go to rallies. They don't wear MAGA hats. They don't "support" him any more than you Warren or Buttigieg voters would be "supporting" Biden or Sanders. You'll simply pull your lever because Trump.

You people make this stuff more complicated than it is. First of all, the only "support" the great majority of people give is that single vote in the first place. And people tend to vote for someone who will support POLICIES they agree with . . . and absolutely NOTHING after that matters. No personal behavior. No off-hand comment. Nothing. You can gnash your teeth all day and night over Trump's "racist" thingys, but they're all intangible interpretations. They're not RACIST POLICIES. If the guy starts proposing George Wallace shit, let's look at his support then. Until that time, it's all meaningless soundbites.

Let's say Thelma Trumpist in Alabama is pro-life. You ask how she can rationalize supporting a racist like Trump. She'll ask how can she rationalize voting for a pro-choice Democrat. What's your answer to her . . . other than the typical "well, you just shouldn't be pro-life then." ?

If you can't see the good in so many people who don't happen to vote the way you do . . . my condolences.

 

I think that it’s not having a broad read of the issues and not thinking too deeply about it. When your only source of news is Fox, e-mail forwards and Facebook memes I don’t think you see the racism. If Fox doesn’t tell them he’s a racist they have no frame of reference for how his actions are racist.

 

I’m not making an argument. I am not trying to persuade them as they have already proven they are unpersuadable. They just need to be exposed to the rest of us so we all understand who they are and we can treat them accordingly. If you unwaveringly support a racist, it’s completely accurate to label you as a racist.
I don’t understand where your disconnect is.

 

You really don't? Then maybe you truly are as lost as they are.

Everything about this is an argument. The goal of anyone in your position should e to persuade as many people as possible to vote against President Trump in November. When you write them off, you lose. Think of Hillary Clinton's mistake with the deplorables comment.

 

Next you guys will be arguing not everyone who supported Hitler in 1930s Germany were Nazis, most just voted for the guy who could make the trains run on time.

 

The answer to Thelma is that maybe she should reevaluate her pro-life position because it’s supported by racists like Trump.

 

Hillary’s mistake with the deplorables comment was that she should have doubled down on it.

“If you’re racist, you’re deplorable. If you’re sexist, you’re deplorable. If you’re homophobic, you’re deplorable. If you’re xenophobic, you’re deplorable. If you’re not these, you’re fine.”

 

Our pet sitter is a Trumpist. I will use her services and continue to give her 40 percent tips because of the wonderful job she does with our animals (and the hundreds she rescues and finds homes for). And because she came to our aid when I called on her with less than 24 hours notice when we had to leave town for a funeral last month.

How, exactly, should I treat her?