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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    Could this trillion go to Americans about to lose daily wages?
     
  2. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    Three Americans killed in Iraq rocket attack Wed. night.
     
  3. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    NBA, GONE AWAY, WHAT ELSE DO I HAVE TO SAY?!

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  4. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    Except for, you know, kids in cages or the Kurds or Puerto Rico or California or....or...or...

    "Asked about holding rallies, Trump said it doesn't matter if Democrats do because nobody came to theirs anyway, while he has "very big" ones. He says, though, he won't do it if it's going to lead to people dying. He says, "I don't want people dying. That's what I'm all about."
     
  5. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    On bailouts. ...

    In 2011/2012, American Airlines filed for bankrupcy. The company is more leveraged today than it was then. It's bonds are trading at distressed debt levels.

    In a vacuum, you can look at the virus and its impact on the airlines and feel really bad for what these companies are facing. And there will be calls for bailouts for companies like this, because "Who could have seen the virus coming?" and "We need to step up and save these great American companies."

    Just keep in mind that American Airlines borrowed billions of dollars over the last 5, 6 years. ... and immediately turned over about $13.5 billion of that debt it is now drowning under to its shareholders in the form of share buybacks and dividends. Financial engineering for a payout in the moment, without considering the fragile financial footing they were putting the company into. American is paying as much as 1o to 15 percent interest on that borrowed money. And it couldn't have been used in any worse way than drastically overpaying to buy back its own stock, which is looking more and more worthless by the day, as the debt it took on to do those buybacks gets more and more expensive to service.

    This is what the Federal Reserve has created. They have incentivized that kind of behavior -- and will double down until they completely lose control. And then the answer from politicians is to bail out the problem companies that are entirely a function of that stupid "monetary policy," compounding the whole mess.
     
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  6. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    Bankruptcy has been part of Airlines Finance 101 since forever.
     
  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Indeed. But when you bankrupt yourself because of costs -- namely labor costs usually -- it's one thing. When you bankrupt yourself because they artificially made the cost of money in real terms free, so as a company you decided to avail yourself of billions of dollars of that free money that they were begging you to take, and then you handed it right over to the owners of your company (not even token investment in the company). ... it's a much different thing. I don't agree with ANY bailout at other people's expense. But when those are the actual circumstances when you cut through it?
     
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  8. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

    You dick.

    We Didn't Start the Fire inception is just eeeeevil.
     
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  9. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    That's on the BoD. Similar with colleges. When the govt will loan individuals tens of thousands of dollars at the click of a mouse, most schools have no choice but to raise tuition. If that faucet is ever shut off, colleges will close by the dozens.
     
  10. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Maybe not close, but I bet that colleges suddenly realize that they have a whole lot of fat among the various ranks of administrators.
     
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  11. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    I love that we can waste no time getting the financial industry bailed out but we have to wait until after the Spring Recess to bail out the people facing the Coronavirus. Fuck Mitch McConnell and his band of ass kissers.
     
  12. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    The day after the Saudis dropped oil prices, Trump was talking bailout for the oil companies.

    They're important. Regular people, well... there are lots of them.
     
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