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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    How about, "Listen, the world has much bigger fish to fry right now than going to war with anyone. So not a single military gun, bullet, ship, aircraft or tank will be built for the rest of the year. We'll make do with what we have. Put that money to other use."
     
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  2. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    1) We are not cutting our military budget to zero. As ridiculously wasteful and a product of cronyism as I think our DoD is, it would also be stupid, because if we are going to leave ourselves vulnerable to others that way, we might as well just leave ourselves vulnerable to a virus that is going to damage our economy.

    2) Even if you get rid of our entire military budget last year, and keep the rest of our spending intact, we would still have been running a deficit of somewhere around $300 or $400 billion. The same old game of picking line items out of what we spend (and I realize our military spending is unreal and massive and not just a single line item) and saying, "If we got rid of this, we could have all these other things" is people doing the same thing.

    We can't just shift deck chairs around much longer. We need to stop living a fantasy. We are much closer right now to it being a FORCED choice than I think people realize. If, really when, our ability to monetize escalating levels of debt ends, we can't continue with business as usual.
     
  3. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

  4. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    I would much rather see bailout money pumped into unemployment benefits that what’s happening now.
     
  5. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    I had to shut down a geezer last night. He's a full-blown MAGA hat-wearing rural 70+ year-old white dude who thinks Trump is god.
    "The Democrats are going to use this against President Trump."
    "Damn right. Remember when President Truman said 'The Buck Stops Here?' Well, this one flat out said 'I take no responsibility at all.' You voted for him. Live or die with that."
    He just put his head down and quit talking.
     
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  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    He happened to tweet this as we were having this discussion.
     
  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I don't think I posted it on here, but I was betting with near certainty last week that the first thing we were going to get from our monetary mandarins was a 100 basis point cut to zero on the overnight rate and more QE. You didn't have to be that clairvoyant to guess that they'd be that predictable. They are in a panic that the bubble world they created is going to collapse all at once. I also expected that it was going to surprise them when the equity market they were frantically trying to prop up didn't respond the way it has for the last 10 years, and they were going to find that the short-term funding markets were seized up and this was a deep financial problem that they had no control over.

    What I posted and just quoted was that what they did to "shock and awe" markets, showed that they had no clue what the actual illness was or if they did, (more likely), they thought they could project confidence (and pray that it created magical confidence) by not going back to crisis measures.

    Since then, short-term lending markets have completely shut off. There is a dollar funding problem. And just now. ...

    Fed to reinstate commercial paper funding facility -sources

    Mind you, the Fed shouldn't be in this business either. ... But what is really telling is the fact that it took the commercial paper market freaking out for them to get there instead of what their first instinct was, which was to frantically try to prop up their bubble world.

    We pay for it all.
     
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  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Oh, and more Repo this afternoon. ... Another $500 billion.

    Anyone who keeps their savings in dollars is getting robbed blind right now by these shitheads. ... They may as well be lighting the dollars in your wallet on fire. Most people don't have a clue.
     
  9. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    For anyone who cares (I realize I am going on and on, but this stuff flies under people's radar and it is at all of our expense), this is a Zero Hedge take on what I just posted.

    Moral Hazard Is Back: Fed To Bail Out Commercial Paper Market

    They are correct. This is moral hazard in a nutshell. We are socializing failure.

    It also might not work; they are not as all-powerful as they have gotten treated for the last 30 years.

    "And now we wait for the Fed to make the official announcement as it continues blindly throwing gobs of liquidity at a problem it ultimately is powerless to fix as the collapse of funding chains (which are simply supply chains in reverse) amid a crisis in confidence can not be resolved with even an unlimited amount of Fed bailout/backstop/rescue facilities."
     
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  10. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Immediately after 9/11 the war criminal and coward dick Cheney went into hiding and Bush was flying around looking for a place to hide. No one was telling the public anything. That’s when Rudy’s balls dropped and he became a man, Providing information and a good attitude. He was commanding and authoritative without being Pollyanna-ish. It took a day or 2 for national authorities to start communicating with public. Rudy was able to communicate effectively and appear honest and trustworthy. Trump and the federal government has spent 3 years lying and being completely untrustworthy. This is why the markets crashed. No one believes him. No rational person should believe he took a virus test and the result. And frankly, leadership should be regularly tested.
     
  11. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    Honestly, if he has it they shouldn't tell us. They need to slowly prepare a transition.

    You really want to see a market collapse?
     
  12. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    I know you hate seeing us make money out of nothing, but giving it to corporations to hide in stocks and not spending is far worse than giving to someone who is not saving money but spending it and keeping that virtual dollar moving from bank account to bank account.
     
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