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The field narrows: The Post Super Tuesday presidential poll and discussion

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Alma, Mar 7, 2020.

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Who would be your pick for president?

  1. Joe Biden

    58 vote(s)
    74.4%
  2. Bernie Sanders

    8 vote(s)
    10.3%
  3. Donald Trump

    8 vote(s)
    10.3%
  4. Other

    4 vote(s)
    5.1%
  1. Tweener

    Tweener Well-Known Member

    Tell me you like Joe Biden’s agenda better and I will have a difference of opinion but won’t argue with you.

    Tell me you trust Biden with your Social Security over Bernie Sanders (who has been a longtime advocate of expanding the program) — well, that’s just lunacy.

    But whatever. We’re already living in the Bizarro World, so why not.


     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2020
  2. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    I trust Biden more than Sanders on any front. Period.
     
  3. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    If Fatfuck remains in power, Bernie and the Bros get nothing (zero zip zilch nada) of what they want, and they probably get dragged to a prison camp for even talking about it.
     
  4. Tweener

    Tweener Well-Known Member

    Despite Biden doing anything to earn that trust. That’s exactly what I’m taking about.
     
  5. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    Not like Sanders has done anything to earn that trust — like showing how he'd pull off his agenda. Just talking points with no substance.

    Warren had a plan. Lots of plans, in fact. Sanders has talking points.
     
  6. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Bernie definitely has his supporters, and asking someone who is still picking up delegates and has a solid 35 pct of your party's voters to pack it in does not help build unity or trust. Bernie should stay in the race, talk about the issues (he has the money and the volunteers), I doubt he goes scorched Earth on Biden, but he probably does need to keep his bloc engaged. I would like to see Biden commit to saving Social Security. Though I do think there are some reasonable adjustments to make - raising the cap to $250k, not allowing workers to receive retirement benefits if they're still employed full-time after 65 and making more than $50k a year. Offering opt-outs in exchange for tax breaks to people 60 and over.
    It's nuts that when Social Security was founded in 1937- eligibility was 65 and the average life expectancy was 58 for men and 62 for women.
    In 2020 those llifespan numbers are 76 for men and 81 for women while the eligibility has only been raised to 67.
    I do think the idea that retirement is a "hard stop" has to change in the US. If someone can afford to retire at 65 or whatever - congrats! A better idea is for people to "throttle down" - work part-time, transition to a less demanding field or a field in acute need of their abilities before a hard stop retirement that is a more accurate to when they can no longer realistically work and provide for themselves.
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2020
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  7. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Bernie doesn’t need to be in the race to discuss issues. He can negotiate part of the DNC platform tomorrow morning and speak to it as much as he wants. Joe needs to be able to start his general campaign soon for a variety of procedural, financial and common sense reasons.
     
  8. Tweener

    Tweener Well-Known Member

    Saying Sanders doesn’t have a plan is in itself a talking point. His plans have been detailed for anyone who bothers to look. It’s moot now because he won’t be the nominee, but he’s trustworthy because he’s been consistent on
    his views for decades and hasn’t been caught in a bunch of lies.
     
  9. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Except gun control, right?
     
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  10. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    I want to know what utopian fantasyland Bernie supporters are living in where they think either side of the aisle will work with this guy if elected .
     
  11. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Got to hand it to Arizona - 62 percent of the vote counted less than 90 minutes after polls closed. Well done. I should mention voters can select to be a permanent vote by mail voter. I'm sure that helps.

    Does anyone trust Mitch McConnell or anyone who follows him to work with the Dems, regardless? Especially if they are in the minority?
    I do agree that Bernie keeps calling for a revolution that is never likely to happen given the Electoral College and the Senate. He'd need 60 Senators and a House as or more liberal than Dick Durbin to get that stuff passed. And Durbin is rated as the 12th most liberal Senator.
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2020
  12. Tweener

    Tweener Well-Known Member

    Right. He’s changed his views on one major issue in 30 years.
     
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