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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    Self-pitying, cruel and heartless is no way to go through a presidency.
     
  2. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    I assume he got a report about the weekend revenues, or lack thereof, at Mar-a-lago, at the Trump Hotels, etc. Given how leveraged he usually is on all of this shit, it wouldn't surprise me if he actually changed policy and said, "Fuck it, let them all get it," if it would help him avoid an embarrassing bankruptcy proceeding.
     
  3. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    I really don’t get the politics/logic of the proposal that Treasury would be able to distribute $500 billion but not having to disclose who receives the money for 6 months.
     
  4. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    The logic is what McConnell's legislative logic has always been. Fuck you. I got the votes to do whatever I want. Except in this case, he doesn't.
     
  5. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The Fed just announced opened ended treasury and MBS purchases "in the amounts needed." US equity futures were limit down (5 percent) at the open last night. They are rouring higher on that news. We'll see if it holds. So far, it has looked like they no longer have the control they had during all the quantitative easing over years, that they used to blow the bubbles in the first place.

    This is so destructive. They can not monetize trillions of dollars of the new debt our politicians are talking about. ...to deal with a credit crisis that the Fed caused in the first place by monetizing debt to the point that everything broke.

    The cure is the disease. They are hastening their own end right now.
     
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  6. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    nope

    he was watching the teevee

     
  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    QE Infinity. None of us NEEDS a job. We'll just have the government support everyone and the Federal Reserve will keep creating unending, unlimited amounts of money to fund it.

    Why did anyone EVER work when it was that easy?
     
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    BTW, buried in the press release. ...

    "Establishment of two facilities to support credit to large employers – the Primary Market Corporate Credit Facility (PMCCF) for new bond and loan issuance and the Secondary Market Corporate Credit Facility (SMCCF) to provide liquidity for outstanding corporate bonds."

    The Fed can not legally buy corporate bonds. ... yet. But that is where they are heading. They'll also try a "main street lending facility" to pretend they are being Santa Claus for everyone, even though their reckless, blunt tools can't manage every individual's finances that way. But watch. They are not going to go down without fucking things up beyond recognition now.

    For anyone who thinks socialism is a good idea, what Bernie Sanders talks about is nothing compared to where we already are. This is a sad day for America and most people are too clueless to understand how much worse they are making the future for us. We need a very serious deleveraging. Instead they are showering us with the disease and pretending that it's the cure.
     
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  9. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    I don't want to live in a society with 30 percent unemployment and really neither do you.
     
  10. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The labor force participation rate has only been somewhere around 65 to 70 percent. The only reason you think you haven't been living in that society already was that those numbnuts masked the depressed economy they had already saddled us with, with a giant debt and leverage fantasy that lasted close to a decade.

    More of the same is not going to even create that fantasy anymore. On top of it, it's a formula for making things way worse. Do you want to live in a society where you are getting that unemployment anyhow (because sending government checks to people that a central bank monetizes is not an "employed" economy) AND you saddle yourself with hyperinflation so those checks are worthless anyhow? That is the formula they have been setting up for the last 10 years and they are now accelerating. They are very certain stagflation can't exist. So when we're living with it, they'll just tell you you're not experiencing what you're actually experiencing.
     
  12. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    He was embarrassed by the first four, why would this one be any different?
     
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