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Muh Muh Muh My Corona (virus)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Twirling Time, Jan 21, 2020.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    I wonder which country in the West has the most ICU beds per capita. I wonder . . .
     
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  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    The likely undercount here is huge.

    The FDNY says it responded to 2,192 cases of deaths at home between March 20th and April 5th, or about 130 a day, an almost 400 percent increase from the same time period last year. (In 2019, there were just 453 cardiac arrest calls where a patient died, according to the FDNY.)

    Staggering Surge Of NYers Dying In Their Homes Suggests City Is Undercounting Coronavirus Fatalities
     
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  3. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    It’s hard for me to imagine in this day and age we cannot count the dead and say what caused them to die.

    But that’s exactly what’s happening.
     
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  4. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

  5. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    The entire "did nothing" hypothetical is a non-starter. Even if the governments "did nothing," the people would be (and have been) "doing something." Sports leagues shut down before any stay-at-home orders were issued. People are wearing masks without any mandate to do so.

    Even though people can be extremely careless and stupid sometimes, they generally carry with them a high degree of self-preservation. With or without a nanny state.

    You want to know EXACTLY what caused everyone to die, you do an autopsy. On every one of the 8,000 Americans who die each day. Or about 11-12 times as many as we currently do. Good luck with that.
     
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  6. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    Did you read the whole story?
    Please correct me if my sequence of events is wrong.
    The law firm filed a case on behalf of their client.
    The state said we want you to drop this case.
    The law firm abandoned its client in favor of the other party's interest.

    It seems to me that would grounds for disbarment.
     
  7. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  8. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Katrina was 15 years ago, and the death count is still an estimate. Catastrophes are hard on statistics. What evidence we do have indicates an undercount of unknown dimensions is far likelier than an overcount of same, but it's just suggestive, not dispositive.
     
  9. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

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    Azrael Well-Known Member

  11. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Excellent stories.

    Of course, it assumes the numbers coming from these countries are accurate (I have no problem with them).

    But we seem to believe the positive numbers only from nations we "like," dismissing positive numbers from adversaries.
     
  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

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