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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    I said how it could be done, not if it could practically be done
     
    Spartan Squad, Apr 14, 2020
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  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    We have to reach the threshold for herd immunity first.

    Otherwise the virus spirals out of control and kills a lot of us.

    So we need testing. And eventually a vaccine. And patience.
     
    Azrael, Apr 14, 2020
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  3. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    I think more of us die with 30% unemployment.

    Half of America owns a gun. I don't want to see 30% of them without food to eat.
     
    Scout, Apr 14, 2020
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  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    If we reach herd immunity (say 50 percent of the population gets this and that does the trick), at a 1 percent death rate, it means between 1.5 million and 2 million Americans dead. If we get that herd immunity in a way in which we haven't mitigated the spread, the number of dead people will be higher than that, because our overwhelmed healthcare system as the virus sweeps through the country will contribute to a magnitude of greater deaths.

    If we buy enough time to get an effective vaccine, that many people may not have to die.

    Herd immunity taking care of this is a worst case scenario. On a spectrum, a somewhat effective anti-viral or other drugs would be next. An effective vaccine would be best. That isn't going to happen very quickly.
     
    The Big Ragu, Apr 14, 2020
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  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member


    Explain that to Scout.
     
    Azrael, Apr 14, 2020
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  6. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    This is a super bad alarmist take.
     
    Azrael, Apr 14, 2020
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  7. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    Brazil's Rio governor test positive. He opposes Bolsonaro's crazy approach.
     
    goalmouth, Apr 14, 2020
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  8. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    So, it might come down to herd immunity vs herd mentality?

    I’ll bet the “over.”
     
    Oggiedoggie, Apr 14, 2020
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  9. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    And some people might say staying inside like this for 15 more months is an alarmist reaction, too.

    I could live with people being in groups of 10. No larger. When someone has it, they get tested and are reported. People are notified they were with someone with COVID.

    At some point in all this, people will get it and recover and hopefully be able to move around more freely.

    Now if people who had it get it again, we're fucked.

    Groups of 10 means for 15 or 18 months, or two summers...
    No sports
    Maybe no school buses
    No church and no communion
    Schools would be totally different
    Day cares would be totally different, possible a single person with 3-4 kids
    Take out food
    No movie theaters
    No amusement parks
    No public pools
    No hotels
    No concerts
    No festivals

    Honestly, I'm cool with all that.
     
    Scout, Apr 14, 2020
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  10. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    With infection and death still clearly on the table, the fact that you're still willing to take that risk is mind-boggling.

    Any religion that refuses to understand this does not need a following.
     
    Sam Mills 51, Apr 14, 2020
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  11. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    No one is suggesting we shelter in place for 15 months.

    Smart people are looking for solutions that combine reasonable restrictions with widespread standard C19 testing.

    Alarmism is suggesting 30% of the US population will start a shooting war to feed themselves.
     
    Azrael, Apr 14, 2020
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  12. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    You've made Trumpists' day.
     
    tapintoamerica, Apr 14, 2020
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