The TV thread

I can't believe they stuck the landing like that.

The AV Club reviewer hated the ending, but it kind of made sense to me. Kind of perfect, actually. Anyway, I'm glad this show is done. It had become more of a chore than a joy to watch.

 

Everybody won, I guess. Except for the burned asset.

 

i found it to be a little perposterous. I liked that it was a little ambiguous whether they were both in on the plan.

overall though the acting and suspense patched any narrative holes. Danes and Patinkin are that good

 

The only reason I think it worked was because the entirety of the final three seasons was so preposterous. I didn't have to suspend disbelief because disbelief was already serving a Ron Artest-like suspension.

 

We bailed out on Homeland a few years back — the first 2/3 of Season 1 were fantastic and we sucked it up through Season 3 before realizing that it was never going to get better.

 

And to think, at that point, there would be multiple more seasons to go.

 

Started the final season of Bosch. Gonna miss this show.

 

I've just binge-watched the entire premiere season "Star Trek: Picard" on CBS All-Access, and, like you, I really liked it. I could even say I loved it, and only wish all the more that it was on regular TV, so that it would get more exposure. I'm sure it would've been a hit.

My only quibbles with it:

1). The occasionally much more unnecessarily course language by characters from whom you would never expect it, just based on, you know, Star Trek as a whole entity. A lot (for Star Trek) of "Shut the fuck up" -- once by a Starfleet admiral just sitting in her office, no less -- and "fucking"/"have you fucked?," type lines that were completely unnecessary, and at odds with anything ever presented in Star Trek over the course of, oh, 50-plus years of production, and language that, frankly, would never happen in the course of any normal conversation on the shows.

2). The deaths of Hugh and Icheb, two minor but significant characters from "Star Trek: The Next Generation" and "Star Trek: Voyager," respectively. Each had substantial and impactful story arcs on their original series, and were among my favorite characters among those with such minor, recurring roles. I was happily surprised -- even thrilled -- to see them on "Star Trek: Picard" when they appeared, and so disappointed to watch each character's demise. I would've loved to see their stories extended/evolved further.

I have a sense that that's what we'll see with Jeri Ryan/Seven in any additional season of "Star Trek: Picard" -- some backstory on/explanation of her struggles to adjust to life back on Earth, perhaps, because this version of Seven is not what you'd expect following her growth and evolution over the course of "Star Trek: Voyager."

 

I've been disappointed that they put this on their streaming service since it was announced. I'm just glad I got to see the first season without paying for it. I'm right in their target audience and that show lost me as a viewer because they aren't putting it regular television.

I wasn't enough of a fan of Voyager to see the stuff with Seven or Icheb that way. I dropped the show before Icheb was a part of it and only caught the final episode out of curiosity. I may go back and watch it at some point, but it's well down my list.

The cursing didn't bother me, but it never does.

 

Anyone watch #BlackAF? I thought the first episode was really good.

 

Man, I feel like I'm the only one who loved Voyager, haha. I mean, I liked it more than DS9, but that could be because I watched them both like... five years ago, and I watched Voyager before DS9.

 

Nope, I liked Voyager a lot, especially when it was originally on, although now, in syndication/repeats, I find that I tend to watch DS9 more. DS9 was a show I actually didn't like that much initially, but it really, really grew on me as time went on and the series progressed. The characters grew, evolved/changed a lot, the story arcs became more interesting and sophisticated, and the series really did get better and better as it went along, and that doesn't happen very often with TV shows.

And now, the DS9 and Voyager books are also among the best, too, I've found.

But, keep in mind, you're talking to someone who has the complete DVD sets of every Star Trek series (yep, even the animated one), and all the movies. So, I'm pretty happy to watch any of them.