Running racism in America thread

Sure. But without the ranting and raving.

As somebody else said, cops get treated like blacks for a few days and this is how they react!?!

 

Do you think the transition might be a little costly in the short term?

 

That's a fair point. I think the entire process could be handled better. It also should have been handled a very long time ago.

One of my concerns is the whole defund the police message. Th wording is poor. The message is unclear at best. It also hands Republicans the kind of boogeyman they desperately need to try to scare voters into supporting them in November. This is especially true for President Trump. (Sorry if that is going too deep into politics, but it is part of that discussion.)

 

If and when Chauvin and the others are acquitted - we'll be doing this all over again.

 

If anything, I think it would strengthen the case for something higher than manslaughter / that oddly-worded murder charge Chauvin initially had hanging over his head.

 

I'll be very curious to see what happens when/if the cops body camera tapes come out.
What happened before the 8:46?

 

In increased crime in some places. In lives.

 

I reserve the right to change my mind but right now, based on what I've read and seen:

*I think Chauvin knew just before he arrived or soon after he arrived the driver who allegedly passed the counterfeit bill was Floyd. He likely won't admit that but I think he did.

*I think Floyd was in some sort of distress after being handcuffed that may have been related to whatever drugs he had in his system. How Floyd was acting when he allegedly passed the counterfeit bill may have played some role in why the clerks called in the situation in the first place.

*I think Chauvin quickly took the lead role with Floyd with a full intent to subdue him with the kneel choke and his lawyers may say he did so based on the way Floyd was acting. Other officers were too timid, cowardly or inexperienced to stop Chauvin.

* I think Chauvin killed Floyd because he kneeled on Floyd for so long Floyd didn't get enough oxygen to his brain/body.

 

I agree police need to be in the conversation. As pointed out by Inky, there's being a part of the conversation and there's what this guy did. The you don't respect me act is hollow when he wants us to ignore the reasons They aren't getting respect.

Police departments need reform and we need police to help with that. How much of their job can be done by social workers who respond first to diffuse rather than cops who escalate? How much will it help police if we have intervention programs that reach people before they reach crisis thus freeing them up to deal with actual threats to public safety? How much crime can be prevented if people had a place to seek help before they turn to police? An officer knows those things. And taking stuff off their plates is something police will welcome so they can do their jobs more effectively.

I don't mind a police voice, but that voice needs to understand my respect can't just be given because he's yelling at me to respect him.

 

I'm glad smeone else thought about that study.

You're right. It doesn't, because it would be a stretch to try to move the charges to premeditated murder.

The history might be interesting, but I still question the ethics of trying to pitch Floyd as some kind of agitator who somehow drove four police officers to kill him.