Running racism in America thread

Yeah, no. Maybe the statues stood in the way of the things we should be seeing.

Your fixation on the looting and vandalism, much of it adjacent to the protests but not perpetrated by the protesters, seems a misplaced emphasis.

 

Always overlooked is that the parties swapped platforms beginning in the latter part of the 19th century.

A conservative was always a conservative and a liberal was always a liberal.

But in 1860 conservatives called themselves "Democrats." In 1930 those same conservatives (or their like-minded grandsons) called themselves "Republicans."


Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? | Live Science

 

History is obscure to ignorant, stupid and uneducated people. Not all are trump supporters. But the overwhelming majority of trump supporters are.

I have a better than average understanding of American history and not from watching TV shows or even Ken Burns. I understand the context of the statues and monuments. And one of things that gets completely lost is the European Responsibility for slavery and native people’s horrendous plight. While slavery has been in the Western Hemisphere it was first brought by the Portuguese to Brazil. Portuguese, English, Spanish and French are responsible from 1492 to 1776, 1783 or 1787. The US government did not begin to be accountable until one of those dates, since it didn’t exist until then. There’s no doubt that the people living in the colonies wanted slavery, but they couldn’t abolish until after the country was founded, even if they wanted to

 

this fucking thread

 

But the far-right media doesn’t want that to get out. The story I’ve heard all day is they are tearing down Teddy Roosevelt because they hate his ruggedness in shaping America’s greatness and ergo further shows the left hates America.

 

Too gritty.

 

Lots of right-wingers despise TR.

They love Bunker Boy, but hate:



From the book jacket:

Bully Boy reveals:

• How TR expanded presidential power and brought us big government

• How he heralded in the era of government regulation, handicapping employers, destroying jobs, and harming consumers

• How this crusader for “pure food” launched loony campaigns against margarine, corn syrup, and Coca-Cola

• How Roosevelt inspired the campaign to enact a federal income tax that was supposedly a tax on the rich but became a people’s tax

 

Here's my take on this situation and the larger BLM movement right now,

This "lady" may have significant mental illness, no doubt, but what needs to change is the immediate jump to "mental illness" and stopping the blame there. Her apparent state is merely the last manifestation of her racism.

Those vile thoughts didn't just start at age 40+ or 50+, those thoughts originated and were planted (I'd bet) long ago, when she might have even been in nappies, in the backyard when the family was having a nice summer BBQ of a slab of ribs and potato salad and PBRs were plentiful in buckets of ice. (Yes blatant stereotyping, but I'm working with what I've seen). In that context, were black people discussed with reverence? Respect? Were they even in attendance or viewed as equals? Or were they slighted, dismissed as less than equals?

That folks is how people were socialized and conditioned to spew these vile thoughts. Parents and adults passing down their distorted views on to children. That's what needs to change.

 

Its like affirmative action (in my mind), making some changes downstream is some progress but the same fish are behind them, you need to fix what's happening far upstream.