2020 MLB postseason thread

Sherriff throws a nasty split-finger etrog but Joc swings a nastier lulov.

 

I don’t know, but I’d be surprised if that’s true. Italian surnames names rarely start with “De.” If the family were Spanish then sure.

 

I guess its good to know that a-holes who leave some players off of ballots is part of a long-standing tradition in HOF voting. You could drink for free all night with some of these "Who had a higher HOF voting percentage Jackie Robinson or Don Sutton" -

 

Best pitcher ever?

Jim Misiuda‎"THE DUGOUT" A FORUM FOR THE LOVE OF BASEBALL
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Twenty six years ago today, October 24th, 1994, Greg Maddux-

 

I'm not trying to be blasphemous, but what was Jackie Robinson's legacy strictly as a player? If you looked at his career stats and achievements without knowing everything else he meant to the game, where would he be ranked? Or is it impossible to separate the two?
If someone else had been the first to integrate and he came along 20 years later and had the same career, would he still have been a Hall of Famer? Or would he have been viewed as just a really good player who wasn't quite at that level?
Not having been around when he played, he always struck me as a guy whose status was rightfully elevated a great deal because of his importance off the field, more than what he achieved on it.

 

At the time Robinson was regarded as one of the top all-around players in the game. The era was less stat-obsessed. He was seen as a Pete Rose type, capable of doing whatever was needed for a win. And anyway, separating his career from his status as an American historical figure is both impossible and silly.

 

Having read a lot about baseball in that era, Dodgers and their opponents are almost unanimous in their feeling that in his prime (1947-54), no player had a larger impact on a game he was playing in - either through his bat, glove, legs, or his influence on his team and how his take-no-prisoner attitude impacted the other team - than Jackie Robinson.

He was a force.

 

Years ago I worked with an older guy who was a huge baseball nut and had seen Robinson as a Montreal Royal when he came to town to play the Toronto Maple Leafs, said he was the "greatest athlete that's ever stepped on a baseball field".

 

Bo Jackson and Jim Thorpe might be the other two of the handful of names I'd place in that category.

 

Thanks. Obviously he was a larger than life figure because of what he did and endured -- and that would be enough to make him a Hall of Famer on its own -- but I hadn't read enough on the other side of it to know if he was more than that on the field, and his stats (1,500 hits, good average but modest power, not a ton of stolen bases) had me wondering if his legend was bigger than his talent. Sounds like the talent matched the legend.

 

It's the ball. Meadows couldn't hit a ball off a tee.

 

Holy shit, what an insane ending.