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The same way Ford pardoned Nixon, who had neither been accused of or convicted of a crime.

Pardon power is, as I understand it, not well adjudicated law. A president has the absolute right to pardon but the limits have never been tested out in court. Like, say could a president tell a wealthy criminal, give me $1 million dollars — sinister laugh — and I’ll give you a pardon?

Could a president self pardon?

There’s lots of other examples but the answer is always maybe because it hasn’t been tested in court.

 

The article linked in the tweet is a meaty read on the Michigan mess and the GOP in general.

 

Is the pardon for a specific crime

 

See Ford-Nixon, 1974.

 

Ford pardoned Nixon “for any crimes he may have committed or participated in while in office.”

trump could, in theory, do the same for himself but then, I think, he wouldn’t be eligible to run in 2024. The same is true if he resigns and is pardoned by temporary president micro pence.

my personal belief is that if things get felony for him, he’ll demand a pardon from Biden in exchange for not leading the revolution or something.

 

As far as whether or not the president can self-pardon, the Constitution does not say he can't, so ultimately it would go to the Supreme Court.

So figure that out.

Fatfuck would only be ineligible to run in 2024 if:

1) He had been re-elected this year;

2) He had been impeached, convicted and removed.

He will be eligible for election in 2024 -- even if he has been convicted of a felony and is being held in prison. Nothing in the Constitution forbids a convicted felon from being elected -- even if he's still in prison.

More of the hypothetical situations of which the Framers said, "oh come on, nobody will ever be so crazy to try that."

 

Hadn't thought of this until reading this piece, but here you go:

In a 1974 memorandum, a Justice Department lawyer said President Richard Nixon could not pardon himself but that another option was constitutional: that he temporarily step down, receive a pardon from his vice president and then regain power.

In order to do that, Nixon would have had to invoke the 25th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which allows an incapacitated president to temporarily step down.

 

A memo from a Justice Department lawyer carries a little more weight than meat-slappers raving on internet message boards, but not really too much. If it had been an opinion formally issued by the Attorney General, it would carry some real impact, but ultimately any question of constitutionality in cases involving the president would come down to SCOTUS.

 

Stepin' fechit calling they damn selves out!