Muh Muh Muh My Corona (virus)

FYI, my guy I watch on KABC-7 news at 4:15 or so every weekday, Dr. Anthony Cedillo (who is fantastic) explained the other day something I knew in the back of my noggin but hadn't really applied it to this virus...when you get the vaccine, you are of course getting infected at a level that will produce the antibodies to attack the actual infection...but he stressed that means people will still be getting infected, they'll only just be able to kill off the infection before symptoms take hold (hopefully). Also means you can still spread it after getting the vaccine, of course. So masks, 6 feet and handwashing remains essential.

 

As of Dec. 30 France had vaccinated 138.

Not 138,000. One-hundred and thirty-eight people.

Coronavirus: Israel leads vaccine race with 12% given jab

 

Covid: France 'pandering to anti-vaxxers' with slow vaccine rollout

 

”Drumpf” voters do not just live in America.

 

I was given a literal vaccination card like it was 1921 instead of 2021. It has my personal info, what shot I got, when, and when to return for round two.
Woulda been cool if they gave me a tag like you get from the vet when your dog gets its shots!

 

Anti-vaxxers are vile. Swaths of the world are dying and they're playing games with real science versus woo.

 

In a world run by TigerVols (what a glorious place that would be!) that card you were given would include a QR code for 50% off your next purchase at Walgreens but it's only redeemable after your second shot.

 

Story on the news last night said 20 percent of front-line workers (mostly nurses) were refusing the vaccine.

 

A chiropractor I know is an anti vaxxer.

Successful practice for decades and has taught.

Married, had kids who are now in their 20s and 30s.

No idea if the kids are on the crazy train.

 

We are trying to straddle that line again, because all of this is true but the word “can” is doing a lot of work here, and it’s going to morph into people believing that the vaccine has no effect on spread.

All of the following are true:

1) the studies for the vaccines did not look at spread as a primary endpoint, so there are literally no studies showing the vaccines would reduce spread. The vaccine makers wanted to make sure the studies had a single, clean victory condition to make approval as quick and easy as possible, and they chose severe illness.

2) it is theoretically possible for spread to occur in someone who is immune. Any single copy of the virus could be said to have a mathematically small but non-zero chance of creating a full-blown infection. Even if the virus never starts multiplying out of control in your body, you could literally just carry a few copies on your hands or in your nose and then pass them to someone else.

so because of that, like you said, vaccinated people should continue to take precautions such as distancing, mask-wearing and hand-washing. Plus it would be a pain to have two different sets of rules going around.

but all that said

3) the vaccine definitely reduces your ability to spread. I’m worried that the idea that it doesn’t is going to be one of those weird new misinformations that we can’t shake like “masks don’t protect you only others” or “immunity only lasts a few weeks or maybe doesn’t exist at all.”

Having a few copies hitch a ride in your nose is a theoretically possible but very unlikely spread scenario. Having many billions of copies of the virus spread throughout your entire body and be expelled en masse every time you breath or cough is a very realistic and common spread scenario.