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Muh Muh Muh My Corona (virus)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Twirling Time, Jan 21, 2020.

  1. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

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  2. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member


    In other words ...

     
  3. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    "Look, it's just an interesting theory that's worth examining."

    Scientists in March: We agree, so we examined it. It's just not true.

    Scientists in May: Still not true.

    Scientists in August: Still not true.

    Scientists in November: Still not true.

    Scientists in January: Still not true.

    Some random author: Hey, maybe it's true though? Shouldn't we at least consider it?

    Basically this energy:

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  4. OscarMadison

    OscarMadison Well-Known Member

    Somewhere there is the most byzantine description of an atlatl ever formulated in any language. It is being kept under lock and key at a large university in the Southeastern United States in an effort to prevent aneurysms beyond the initial class who heard it during an exercise in delivering research papers that went horribly awry. The same undergraduate's description of Aztec sun rituals, which were liberally punctuated with exclamations of, "Wait! That's not even the rilly cool part!" crawled out of the room and was last seen slipping into a storm grate.

    The group leader's hapless explanation that she was trying to not hurt feelings during the planning of their presentation day led to counseling sessions in the dean's office where concepts about "breaking a few eggs" and "this is not the department to encourage damned hippies" were thrown around. The group leader then transferred to a kinder, gentler program in another state, where she was accused of making a freshman cry during her first week of matriculation. Or so I've heard.
     
  5. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    You are the one turning this into a contest. I am not "claiming victory." I have no clue what the origin of the virus was. Neither do you.

    I also know that all the "serious scientific work" in the world does not know what the origin of this virus is.

    To the extent there have been some scientists who have very vehemently said that their professional OPINION is that it couldn't have come from the lab -- some citing some characteristics of it that suggest to them that it has similarities to things found in nature -- many of their objections also read like they were VERY sensitive because it was colleagues of theirs who are in that lab and they needed to come to their defense.
     
  6. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Yes, I do know.

    Because I read things like this:

    The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2

    If you can read that and still "not know," then you are part of the problem.
     
  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    That article suggests that the virus wasn't human made or engineered from other viruses in a Frankenstein way to make a more deadly virus.

    That New York magazine article doesn't suggest it was man made. It throws out a theory that they were playing with a natural virus in a lab -- trying to hotwire it for whatever purposes -- and it got out of the lab.

    There is no evidence that happened. But it also isn't something that has been disproven.
     
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  9. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    It's a really interesting story. It addresses all that, even cites the scores of experts.
     
  10. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    “Playing with it in a lab” is just trying to say “human engineered” in a different way and hoping no one notices
     
  11. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    So you're not saying it's man made but instead you're saying it was ... man made? Ok that's an oversimplification of your point, but the reality is the best scientific evidence says it wasn't the result of a lab creation or accident. Telling me we don't know the origins doesn't prove it came from a lab. Because we don't know the origins doesn't mean eliminated possibilities are valid. It means we no longer have to look there. If I'm looking for my keys, I'll check my pocket and find they are not there. There's no more reason to check my pocket looking for my keys because I don't know where they are. I know where they are not. It tells me I need to look somewhere else. Eliminating a lab accident means science can figure resources elsewhere.

    This writer "throwing out possibilities" is irresponsible when we know it isn't true. And it perpetuates a nefarious theory that China is either by overt action or by negligence brought down the west. And that is going to breathe life into whatever hate of the Chinese that will continue.
     
  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Take a few minutes to read it.

    It's an interesting piece.
     
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