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Muh Muh Muh My Corona (virus)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Twirling Time, Jan 21, 2020.

  1. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Oh sure, I could do that. But coming up with the test itself, that's what blows me away.
     
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  2. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    The reason I went to X-Ray school instead of Respiratory Therapy was the biochem. High school chem was not fun for me.

    I chose radiation physics over biochem. Go figure.
     
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  3. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    There's a better chance of me understanding something from that realm than there is of me understanding how/why that tetrahedron (e.g., a carbon atom's bonding ... pattern?) works this way in this situation but that way in that situation.

    Which is similarly bizarre because I'm all over probability!
     
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  4. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Dammit, COVID is getting closer to my world, my buddy just told me his dad just died from COVID-19 (he was over 80 and recovering from a broken leg in a rehab facility in NY).
     
  5. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    So sorry to hear. Doesn't matter the age, that still hurts to lose someone like that. Many sympathetic vibes to your friend's family.
     
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  6. tea and ease

    tea and ease Well-Known Member

    Yep. Age doesn't matter. Neither does possible pre-existing conditions . I'm so sorry for your buddy.
     
  7. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    My boss’ husband just tested positive.
    A co-worker’s fiancé just tested positive.
    Another co-worker told me he found out yesterday that he’d been exposed on NYE and was gonna take a test today.

    It’s getting much worse before it’s getting better.
     
  8. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    My immediate family has gotten through this unscathed. At the same time several co-workers have been sick, four co-workers have lost parents, and I just learned this week that a cousin was the first recorded COVID death in Colorado. (We were not close - hadn't seen her in decades. Ironically, she was a retired infectious diseases nurse.)

    The fact that people still treat it so lightly is just so strange to me.
     
  9. gingerbread

    gingerbread Well-Known Member

    I feel like framing this.
     
  10. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Yeah. It’s just the flu. Anybody who thinks it’s serious is just a Coronabro who hates footbawwwl. Fuck you, Trumpists. I watched my dad fade away over seven years, ultimately relieved that he died before he could forget who I was.
    And if initial fears prove accurate, hundreds of thousands of people will eventually experience dementia because Trumpists refused to wear a mask.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...8caf18-4cc9-11eb-a9f4-0e668b9772ba_story.html
     
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  11. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    So, New York magazine.

    On the Cover of New York Magazine: The Lab-Leak Hypothesis

    Given the seriousness and sensitivity of the subject matter (among the effects of the politicization of the disease has been the bullying and harassment of Asian Americans), New York’s fact-checking team spent a month vetting the story; additionally, Baker and the magazine shared drafts of the essay with multiple scientists, including two molecular biologists who believe that SARS-CoV-2 is a zoonotic virus, who all provided critical feedback to help ensure the accuracy of the work.

    There's a journalism discussion to be had here. This didn't appear on some rando's Medium page, or unvetted at Substack.

    Presumably, New York magazine has a lot at stake in publishing this.

    Was it right to do so?
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Not even a question to me.

    An outbreak of a deadly virus, the origin of which none of us can know for certain (despite what has been posted on this thread), occured right in the backyard of the only level 4 virology institute in China, which happened to be studying the closest known relative of that exact virus, and which has a history of creating viral chimeras, a practice that concerned a number of bioethicists. Because of those cirumstances, there were conspiracy theories from the earliest days of the pandemic, and that has created a lot of confusion. Not just among people who believe the conspiracy talk of the pandemic having been unleashed intentionally, but because a lot of people -- for example on this thread -- seem so invested in shouting down any talk of the possibility that a lab accident, and not a zoonatic jump, could have unleashed this virus and brought about a pandemic. Again, given that none of us know for sure what the origin of this virus was, and what is at stake in terms of preventing future pandemics if this occured that way, it's certainly worth considering the possibility.

    If you were going to do that story, to have credibility, you needed to do it well and not just throw out wild conspiracy theories, but explore the possibilities in a reasoned way. From the legwork that obviously went into that piece, and the people he quoted and spoke with, I thought they really walked the line well.

    None of that is me personally suggesting that this came from a lab or that it is zoonatic (there is no way for me -- or anyone else on this thead -- to know, which is the point), it was that when I saw the posts suggesting this piece wasn't legit, or was akin to the Chiii-Nah conspiracy theories, what I wasn't seeing was anyone factually addressing the piece.
     
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