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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member


     
  2. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    Yes and no. Lots of people in lots of states got really bad advice from terrible leaders, who were motivated by profit and power, to do such.

    Sturgis still happened. That one event was well beyond a super-spreader and it was because Cowgirl Barbie thought it elevate her profile nationally. She was right, and just because a bunch of people in Minnesota and Iowa and elsewhere got sick, maybe died, that isn't her problem.

    Other things, life events, they come with non-refundable deposits, and travel and food and everything else. Those things are really hard to stop on a dime. And if you do, you lose a ton of cash. For example, my father-in-law had a heart attack and then had surgery right before the 50th wedding anniversary. That party was cancelled and semi-serious money was lost, on the other hand, we ate gold wrapped candy for months, so win-win?

    The other thing is, I've never lived in a hurricane state, but news reports indicate there's still a portion of the population that goes to the bar, drink, and watch the storms roll in because they're convinced the storm wasn't going to hurt them. People who do live in hurricane states and have said those people are actually small but command an over sized share of attention.

    It seems reasonable to believe that a segment of the population was like the people having a hurricane party. They just didn't care because they didn't think they'd get sick and they didn't think they'd get other people sick.

    There's also a really true thing that happened where employees were still expected to report to work even though it was 50-50 that they'd get sick. Meat packers were ordered by the President of the United States to return to the plants because the country was running low on meat and that made them essential workers. Their bosses then bet on who would get sick. Many of them, the POCs who lived in congregant housing, especially did. Some died. Some of them got their relatives sick. Some died. All because of a meat shortage that wasn't caused by the pandemic, but instead the producer had oversold supply to China and other foreign markets, to drive up the price in America because of a "fake" shortage.
     
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  3. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  4. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  5. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Rudy, name these "Right wing groups that oppose Trump." Jaysus, what a steaming pile of word salad. Even Steve Bannon isn't buying that BS.

     
  6. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    He's been out of office all of nine days. Once the impeachment trial ends, his ways of taking the spotlight shrink significantly. Sure, he can denounce Biden, but that makes him just another Republican. And since they're IN office, loons like Gaetz and Greene can make more and weirder news than he can. Oh, they'll SAY Trump forever, but like any crime mob, when the boss is away, the others start working their own fiddles and thinking how nice they'd look in the big chair.
     
  7. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Besides the absence of leadership on the virus from the beginning, the absence of any plan to deal with a pandemic and the absence of intelligence to listen to experts there is the gross uncivilized selfishness of conservatives masquerading as Liberty.

    don’t want to wear a motorcycle helmet or seatbelts? Fine. You accept the risk and you have only yourself to blame. Even if the accident is not your fault, your failure to take reasonable precautions precludes recovery.
    But the virus is like drunk driving. I don’t give a shit if you die because you chose to drive drunk, your choice, but you endanger others.
    Well this virus doesn’t effect just you. Don’t want to follow the rules because FREEDOM. But you’re not making an individual choice, you are deciding the fates of countless others. You chose to not give a shit. That’s the problem. The right doesn’t give a shit. So professed Christians don’t give a shit about anyone else. Which is exactly what Jesus did not preach.
     
  8. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Schumer should put the impeachment trial off for an indefinite period. Just let it hang there. Do other work. Keep it hanging around but say there are more urgent matters at this time. Let him sweat it out.
     
  9. FileNotFound

    FileNotFound Well-Known Member

    Maybe a better analogue than drunk driving would be smoking in public. We successfully made that socially unacceptable — then, largely, illegal — before this wave of “muh freedumb.”
     
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  10. FileNotFound

    FileNotFound Well-Known Member

    He’s not sweating shit. He knows he’s not going to be convicted, and the longer the trial lingers, the longer his cursed name stays in the news. Get it over with and put the Trump era behind us and let him go on the actuarial inevitability of his clogged arteries.
     
  11. Octave

    Octave Well-Known Member

    Whatever your jam is, works.

    I think small talk sucks, for instance.
     
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  12. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    I see that side, but the an acquital is better for him than a lingering trial.
     
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