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NFL offseason thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Splendid Splinter, Jan 11, 2021.

  1. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    I think a lot of that will depend on what Stafford does. Stafford has only has a QBR of over 100 once in his career. Last year it was 96 which put him in the middle of the pack for NFL QB's. Goff ahs a 90 rating. f Stafford goes out and has a much better year and the Rams improves McVay is a genius. If Stafford is once again a middle of the pack type of guy then McVay's reputation takes a big hit.

    Personally I think that people have caught up with the McVay/Shanahan play action offense. I know it is harder to judge Shanahan because of Garappolo's injuries but I think both coaches need a second act.
     
  2. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Coaches who have taken teams to Super Bowls within the last 3 years with less than stellar QB’s already need a new act?

    I fail to see what either of these 2 have done that you would question them already. As a Seahawk fan I see the Hawks out coached nearly every time they play them, they still will pull off some of these games but is sure isn’t because they are better coached.
     
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  3. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    His abilities as a QB/offensive whisperer.

    Rams reach Super Bowl. Seemingly every coach opening that offseason was about teams trying to find the next Sean McVay.

    Then Goff's number go to pot, in part because the moment a play doesn't stay in perfect rhythm, Goff shows next to no ability to adjust, stretch the play, find someone farther down his progressions. Then he gets dealt.

    How much of this is on Goff? How come the great Sean McVay can't cure this and cuts bait, which costs what precious little draft capital the team had left.

    Can't be both a coaching savant, yet pass the buck.
     
  4. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    Last three Super Bowls? Then explain Doug Pederson's firing.
     
  5. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    Goff was a stellar quarterback in McVay's first two years. The Rams were first and then second in points scored. In 2019 thy dropped to 11th and then 22nd in 22nd..

    The Forty-Niners dropped from second last year to 21st this year but I acknowledge that the 49'ers had injuries that certainly had a huge effect on their offense this year.
     
  6. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    Go look at Goff's numbers his rookie year - I think that's why McVay got his reputation, in addition to his work as an OC before the Rams. Goff looked like a total bust his first year, and since then, he's look between below average and above average. I suppose this year with Stafford - and Goff's year in Detroit will be telling for both of their reputations.
     
  7. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Todd Gurley's rookie season made Jared Goff a better QB more than McVay did.
     
  8. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Does anybody watch Rams games?
     
  9. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    It is somewhat mind-numbing that at this point, I have no idea if Trubisky or Wentz would be a better QB going forward. I oddly think Trubisky could be a decent backup, just because he can move pretty well. Wentz was so god damn good his first or second year in the league, I can understand a team taking a flyer on him, but christ he's making a shit ton of money.
     
  10. Machine Head

    Machine Head Well-Known Member

    So they both fit perfectly into the rich tradition of Chicago Bears QBs
     
  11. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I actually welcome QB movement - particularly for mid-level teams with mid-level QBs, particularly when a QBs success/failure is probably about 60 percent the coaching, the system and the team around them. The odd thing with the Bears though is that Siriani and Nagy are kind of like coaching "cousins" from their ties to the Reid tree.
     
  12. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Not true, it was all part of the offense.
     
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