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Muh Muh Muh My Corona (virus)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Twirling Time, Jan 21, 2020.

  1. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    From my experience and from what others have said, the effects won't kick in until the next day. And even then, you feel crummy, but you don't actually look sick. Unless body aches and chills really do a number on you.
     
  2. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    I’m hoping to fake it if I have symptoms. I do have to say that my arm was really sore for about 4 days after the first shot.
     
  3. UPChip

    UPChip Well-Known Member

    'Basically In A New Pandemic,' Says Merkel, As Germany Extends Lockdown

    These sorts of articles really get under my skin because they kind of get to the bad-faith question I typically revert to whenever COVID stuff makes me mad, which is:

    "At what point is it not my fault government and/or the medical community cannot sufficiently fix this problem?"

    Because as easy and convenient as it is to rip the Trump administration for its handling of this, there are few if any places on the planet that are anywhere near "normal," even the ones that supposedly did things "right."
     
  4. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    The original coronavirus surge was very severe in the EU countries (and Great Britain), but they were able to contain it with much stricter lockdown policies than in the US. The EU and the US both pretty much disregarded any restrictions during the holiday season, and each suffered January surges as a result. But 1. The new mutations were a much bigger factor in the EU and 2. EU countries (not Great Britain, though) have fucked up their vaccination programs six ways from Sunday compared to the US, and nobody would call our programs perfect by any means. As a result, the January surge in Europe has just kept on truckin'.
     
  5. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    PTO, as I understand it, is a finite resource ("You have 120 hours of PTO this year . . . ").

    Our company is basically saying, "Get vaccinated, and put two extra hours on Kronos when you do."

    Well, other than New Zealand and Mars, the former being only slightly less difficult to get to.

    Oops. You said "on the planet." Cross off Mars.
     
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  6. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    Correct, I'm saying we don't have to take it when we're getting the vaccine. I'll still put down that I'm working 730-4 tomorrow but some of that on the clock time will be me at the Richmond Raceway getting jabbed.
     
  7. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    My arm hurt for a good week after my second shot. It was almost like someone hit me with a stick and I had a bruise.
     
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Things are way more normal in lots of other places, at least in terms of people being able to live their lives without cases and deaths still raging, the way they are here. For example, Australia. While we are adding tens of thousands new cases a day, Australia is averaging less than 10 a day. China is barely registering any new cases. New Zealand, of course.

    I know you put "right" in quotes, and given the difficulty in navigating the pandemic -- especially early on when we were still gaining knowledge about what we were dealing with -- there is no right. There are difficult choices. But there are objectively stupid things that people could have been doing, and the U.S. has led the way in that category. A lot of people behaving against reason. I agree with you that it is easy to rip Trump (although I don't see the convenience in it), because he is a fucking moron who set the wrong tone and led the way in idiocy, but I think Trump even having been president was indicative of the same stupidity that had people behaving in ways that has made (and continues to make) the pandemic much worse than it needed to be. In all ways. More people sick, more dead and making it economically worse than it needed to be.
     
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  9. UPChip

    UPChip Well-Known Member

    How have they fucked them up beyond simply not having sufficient stock of vaccine?
     
  10. UPChip

    UPChip Well-Known Member

    Kronos?

     
  11. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

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  12. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    1. Limited stock of vaccine was mostly due to price haggling by the EU. 2. Many countries went for the AstraZenica vaccine then stopped program altogether as a result of the blood clot scare. 3. Very poor marketing/public education efforts about the vaccine. I can only speak to my daughter's experience in France, but employees and management at her wine exporting company as well as many of her early '30s-late '20s friends simply do not take the virus very seriously and are a very hard sell as to why they should take the vaccine. As of this morning, a little less than 10 percent of residents of her town, Bordeaux, have been vaccinated with even one shot, compared to 25 percent of Massachusetts residents who've had at least one.
     
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