NFL offseason thread

Chargers fans may get their wish

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Just curious why he is terrible in all caps to you.
I mean, he does lock on to his main target and takes sacks he should avoid. But that doesn't make him uniquely TERRIBLE does it?

 

More scuttlebutt I'm hearing locally is Jones at 3.... I'm not usually a huge draft guy but Shanahan better pick Lance, the better athlete with the greater potential. Looking back at his selection of Beatherd with a high (3rd rd) pick and then the adoration of Cousins, I'm seriously worried this is going to be Jones. As the armchair/keyboard fan, I'm probably way off but you don't use 3 first round picks for a game manager with an adequate arm. If he's going to be a pure pocket guy, he's got to at least have a great arm. Even during the season, Trask was getting more accolades.

 

Trask’s arm strength isn’t great, either.

 

Seems like the most scouts saw of Trask he went from being a maybe late first/early second to a likely third.

 

And the higher up the board went Florida's receivers. It's hard to properly evaluate a college QB when, like Jones, he played with two wideouts who're likely to be top ten first round picks. Where does he leave off and they start?

 

He also thought Mahomes was terrible and Newton would be out of the league in 5 years. I’m sure there are others but those two stick out.

 

Trask threw a lot of shit up in the air that Pitts pulled down so anyone questioning his accuracy would be on part.

Speaking of Pitts. I'm a big fan, but I just can't go with a tight end being the first offensive skill player selected. I get that he's a mismatch and they can line him up in a bunch of spots, but eventually you have to do tight end shit, which means a lot of run blocking and chipping defensive ends and EDGE rushers. Unless you are Tony Gonzalez or Shannon Sharpe, that shit takes a physical toll on a player. Most top tight ends have five good-great seasons for the position and then the physical toll catches up. Jeremy Shockey, Greg Olson, Vernon Davis, Jimmy Graham, even Gronk struggled to stay healthy with the demands that position puts on the body. You're asking one player to be a wide receiver, an offensive tackle and a offensive guard at the same time.

Pitts couldn't stay healthy this year at Florida. I think it'll be 3-4 years of great numbers and then fade begins.

 

Even if that's correct though, isn't it worth a first round draft pick? Like, we're not talking QB, where a great one with proper protection can log 10 to 15 years. I think if you told any GM, "You'll get five years of All-Pro production from this player, but no more," they'll take it, unless the position is like, P or K.

 

Four or five years of great numbers are well worth a top 5-10 draft pick for a tight end. After that, you can let somebody else pay him if you choose.

 

First round pick? Sure. Top 5 pick you're looking for a franchise player and 4-5 years of good production doesn't make that IMO.

 

So where would Kelce have gone if teams knew then what they know now? Or Gronk, who was a second rounder only because his injury in college made him suspect? If you think a player can be a Hall of Famer, or at least an All-Pro during his prime, then he's easily worth a top five pick whatever his position. In a good draft class, maybe three Hall of Famers come out of the first round.