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Thoughts and Prayers: The Religion Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Slacker, Oct 15, 2019.

  1. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    So I should pray to God to rid the cancer from my wife even though God created the cancer knowing it would invade my wife? Nothing happens that God doesn’t know, nothing exists which God didn’t create. Praying to God is asking God to change his plan, which is asking God to admit an error, which is impossible because God is perfect.
    God created poverty and murder and rape and genocide and illness. Why does bad or evil exist, but for God.
     
  2. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    No. I think Jane asks the real question: "Why isn't God on the news?"​


     
  3. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    fMy understanding is you are supposed to pray for the strength to handle whatever has come your way in life.
     
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  4. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

  5. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Why? God either already determined whether you will have the strength or not. It’s part of the plan. Asking for God to change the plan is blasphemous. Asking God to reveal the plan is blasphemous. There is no free will. God has determined how you should behave and it is called Good. Anything that isn’t part of the plan is bad, any action that deviates from Good, is against God’s plan. Any deviation is grounds for eternal damnation. You cannot choose a choice other than predetermined but unrevealed Good, without suffering eternal pain and punishment. Where’s the choice?
     
  6. maumann

    maumann Well-Known Member

    Happy Easter to those of the Christian faith. Happy Chocolate Craving Day to those who just enjoy eating ears off of rabbits.
     
  7. lakefront

    lakefront Well-Known Member

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  8. OscarMadison

    OscarMadison Well-Known Member

    Argh! People like this irritate the heck out of me. As someone who tries to encourage creative professionals to see their work as legitimate labor that is deserving of compensation AND try to convince consumers that the lights don't stay on and the kibble bowl doesn't get filled with exposure, I will say this is just not acceptable. Small business owners, artists, performers, and writers have enough real things to contend with: a tanked out economy, COVID, bottlenecked and broken supply chains... The idea of someone wailing that "No one understands artists!" or "This is for a good cause!" ring hollow when customers have paid you their money and you are flaking out on them.
     
  9. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Even if everything is predetermined, you don’t know it.
     
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  10. OscarMadison

    OscarMadison Well-Known Member

    Where did you get that video of me and my dad? You're The Man, aren't you?
     
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  11. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Another question re prayer: Is there a plurality interpretation of this verse? To me, it sure seems to say that you always get what you ask for in prayer. But that obviously can’t be unequivocally true.

    Matthew 7:7-11[​IMG]
    Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened.
     
  12. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    But you know it’s predetermined even if you do t know what it is, if you believe in God as interpreted by Christian theology.

    clearly god doesn’t intercede in human affairs on any great scale or individual scale. can’t stop thinking about Marie. She was 28 years old in 2013. six fighters armed with rifles and machetes burst into her home in the capital of the Central African Republic, Bangui. Two of the fighters held her husband at gunpoint while the others pushed her to the ground. “Each of the four then raped me,” she told me. “My husband was in the room, but they would not let him move.”
    This is but one of millions of atrocities committed every day against innocent children of god, without the AllMighty interceding. How do you revere anything that allows genocide, rape gangs, child sex trafficking, slavery, jacking up the price of medicine.
     
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