Muh Muh Muh My Corona (virus)

Octave · Apr 18, 2021

I have been vaccinated. I'll reserve gladness about it until I'm cleaning up again at trivia night.

Sam Mills 51 · Apr 18, 2021

Michael_ Gee said: ↑

So France is screwing up its virus response, but in the snappy nickname department, they crush us. Their word for their mass vaccination sites is "vaccinodrome."
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That's one way to cycle the folks through ...

SFIND · Apr 18, 2021

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How embarrassing for the media?

tapintoamerica · Apr 18, 2021

Does this constitute negative, Amurrica-hating COVID coverage?

Hermes · Apr 18, 2021

Jerry-atric said: ↑

My friend, the past year has been tough on all.
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Yeah, I heard this global pandemic that’s killed three million people has been a real headache for you.

Jerry-atric · Apr 18, 2021

Hermes said: ↑

Yeah, I heard this global pandemic that’s killed three million people has been a real headache for you.
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I appreciate that, my friend. I suspect it has been no “day at the beach” for you, either.

We are truly all in this together.

matt_garth · Apr 18, 2021

You mean this conference?

tapintoamerica said: ↑

Does this constitute negative, Amurrica-hating COVID coverage?

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Alma · Apr 18, 2021

SFIND said: ↑

How embarrassing for the media?
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I dunno. Yes. Maybe. The 41% is alarming. But so are the 35 and 28%. How'd we get there?

Deskgrunt50 · Apr 18, 2021

Had second shot of Moderna about 12 hours ago. Arm a little sore and slight headache. So far so good. Day pretty clear on Monday if it turns into a rest and recovery situation.

BTExpress · Apr 19, 2021

Rescheduled for Pfizer 1 on Wednesday. Maybe this time.

Cosmo · Apr 19, 2021

From this morning's New York Times newsletter:

Good morning. Why do so many vaccinated people remain irrationally fearful? Listen to the professor’s story.

A fable for our times
Guido Calabresi, a federal judge and Yale law professor, invented a little fable that he has been telling law students for more than three decades.

He tells the students to imagine a god coming forth to offer society a wondrous invention that would improve everyday life in almost every way. It would allow people to spend more time with friends and family, see new places and do jobs they otherwise could not do. But it would also come with a high cost. In exchange for bestowing this invention on society, the god would choose 1,000 young men and women and strike them dead.

Calabresi then asks: Would you take the deal? Almost invariably, the students say no. The professor then delivers the fable’s lesson: “What’s the difference between this and the automobile?”

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One way for a risk to become salient is for it to be new. That’s a core idea behind Calabresi’s fable. He asks students to consider whether they would accept the cost of vehicle travel if it did not already exist. That they say no underscores the very different ways we treat new risks and enduring ones.

I have been thinking about the fable recently because of Covid-19. Covid certainly presents a salient risk: It’s a global pandemic that has upended daily life for more than a year. It has changed how we live, where we work, even what we wear on our faces. Covid feels ubiquitous.

Fortunately, it is also curable. The vaccines have nearly eliminated death, hospitalization and other serious Covid illness among people who have received shots. The vaccines have also radically reduced the chances that people contract even a mild version of Covid or can pass it on to others.

Yet many vaccinated people continue to obsess over the risks from Covid — because they are so new and salient.

‘Psychologically hard’
To take just one example, major media outlets trumpeted new government data last week showing that 5,800 fully vaccinated Americans had contracted Covid. That may sound like a big number, but it indicates that a vaccinated person’s chances of getting Covid are about one in 11,000. The chances of a getting a version any worse than a common cold are even more remote.

But they are not zero. And they will not be zero anytime in the foreseeable future. Victory over Covid will not involve its elimination. Victory will instead mean turning it into the sort of danger that plane crashes or shark attacks present — too small to be worth reordering our lives.

That is what the vaccines do. If you’re vaccinated, Covid presents a minuscule risk to you, and you present a minuscule Covid risk to anyone else. A car trip is a bigger threat, to you and others. About 100 Americans are likely to die in car crashes today. The new federal data suggests that either zero or one vaccinated person will die today from Covid.

It’s true that experts believe vaccinated people should still sometimes wear a mask, partly because it’s a modest inconvenience that further reduces a tiny risk — and mostly because it contributes to a culture of mask wearing. It is the decent thing to do when most people still aren’t vaccinated. If you’re vaccinated, a mask is more of a symbol of solidarity than anything else.

Coming to grips with the comforting realities of post-vaccination life is going to take some time for most of us. It’s only natural that so many vaccinated people continue to harbor irrational fears. Yet slowly recognizing that irrationality will be a vital part of overcoming Covid.

“We’re not going to get to a place of zero risk,” Jennifer Nuzzo, a Johns Hopkins epidemiologist, told me during a virtual Times event last week. “I don’t think that’s the right metric for feeling like things are normal.”
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Songbird · Apr 19, 2021

Deskgrunt50 said: ↑

Had second shot of Moderna about 12 hours ago. Arm a little sore and slight headache. So far so good. Day pretty clear on Monday if it turns into a rest and recovery situation.
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My 2nd one is Wednesday.

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