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Movie plot holes

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Killick, Apr 24, 2021.

  1. BurnsWhenIPee

    BurnsWhenIPee Well-Known Member

    How did the best poker players on the planet all fail to spot Teddy KGB's pretty obvious tell for years and years, until Matt Damon discovered it as he was playing for his life?
     
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  2. cyclingwriter2

    cyclingwriter2 Well-Known Member

    From sports movies:

    - what did Roy Hobbs do all of those years? Jail? Hospital? Insane asylum?

    - Mystery Alaska: the Rangers sign two of the players from the team...no draft?

    - Ned Braden is wearing his jock over his long johns. Next thing, he is only in his jock.

    - caddyshack. The putt would have been declared dead after 10 seconds.

    - Rocky IV: the Apollo fight should have been stopped by the ref.
     
  3. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    - what did Roy Hobbs do all of those years? Jail? Hospital? Insane asylum?

    A compiler for the Hebron Oilers. Had too many RBIs so he couldn't get a look from MLB.
     
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  4. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    There was a point where the ref tried to step in and Drago threw him aside. Which probably should have been a disqualification and potentially led Drago to be charged with manslaughter or even murder, but that's a whole other plot hole.

     
  5. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    More from Back to the Future:

    Why is Marty surprised Doc Brown is alive in 1955?
    Are Marty's parents not suspicious that their son looks and sounds exactly like a kid they knew back in high school?
    Marty's grandfather not knowing who JFK was in 1955 is also a bit of a stretch. PT109 (which happened more than a decade earlier) had tons of publicity in widely read magazines of the age like Reader's Digest and JFK was of course a U.S. senator who was the son of a well-known and infamous figure.
     
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  6. Gutter

    Gutter Well-Known Member

    From Part III...

    Doc’s tombstone says he died on 9/7/1885 and refers to his beloved Clara.

    When Marty travels to 1885 in the days prior to that date, Doc is asked to pick up Clara when she arrives in town.

    However, Doc and Marty end up saving her before she tumbled into Shownash Ravine, which we find out is renamed Clayton Ravine after a schoolteacher who went down it.

    If Clara was meant to perish in the ravine, how can she become the beloved of Doc when they hadn’t met?
     
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  7. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    Why would they be suspicious? They aren't any photos of "Calvin," and without that visual cue to remind them what he looks like, they'd probably just think, "Oh he looks like our friend Calvin, isn't that funny?" Even though he was ultimately incredibly important in how they got together, he was a presence in their lives for less than a week.

    The more interesting fan theory to me, inspired partially by Chuck Klosterman's musings I believe - In the Back to the Future universe, "Star Wars" exists. So, it's possible that George McFly thinks that he and George Lucas both got visited late at night by this alien, and they both created different sci-fi universes out of it.
     
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  8. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

     
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  9. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    Because Doc's tombstone was bought by Clara. Think of it like three timelines:

    A) The original timeline, Clara dies in the ravine.
    B) The first "new" timeline, Doc goes back via the freak accident and saves Clara by himself. We don't see this part, but the scene we do see in III, Marty is more of a bystander anyway. They then fall in love, but Doc is killed by Mad Dog. This creates the tombstone.
    C) In the ultimate new reality, Marty goes back. Doc saves Clara and his death is prevented by Marty. So, it's probably known as Shownash or Eastwood Ravine. (Can't remember which.)
     
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  10. Killick

    Killick Well-Known Member

    Well, now... THAT makes sense. You may have saved this movie for me! Thanks!
     
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  11. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope

    Every other Star Wars movie after it
     
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  12. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Heat. The bank job.
    How did Waingro know about the bank job to tip off the cops? Or at least in enough time to tip off the cops? And how did the cops assemble a small army fast enough to break up the heist?

    Waingro was, we assume, only in on one job with McCauley's crew and then they quickly make him persona non grata that night. Neil doesn't find out about the bank until at least a day or two after that happens, so there's no way Waingro could have known about it then.
    OK, so we find out later that Waingro tortures Trejo to find out the information. But the last time we see Trejo alive he's running around town trying to give the cops tailing him the slip and is nowhere near his house where he was tortured and killed. At the same time, the crew is eating lunch and presumably only 30 minutes to an hour from starting the bank job. At best, Trejo is getting back home when the crew leaves the diner.

    So in less than an hour, all of this would have had to happen:
    1) Waingro finds and tracks Trejo to his house while also not alerting the police tail to potential trouble.
    2) Waingro breaks into Trejo's house, ambushes him, tortures Trejo and his wife, and cracks Trejo into giving up at least some plans about the bank job. Maybe Waingro was waiting for him and had done a lot of work on Anna already, but the crew is still heading for the bank by the time Trejo gets back home. I can't imagine Trejo being enough of a wimp to give up the information without at least some kind of a fight that would take some time.
    3) Waingro calls the police and goes through at least one intermediary to leave a vague message for Detective Hanna.
    4) The message, which no one seemed to have much urgency to deliver, actually gets through a couple of hands to Hanna. There is no way this process could have started until Trejo got back home and the crew was on the way to the bank.
    5) Hanna and his squad are able to form up, brief and deploy somewhere what appears to be 40 or 50 cops.
    6) Dennis Haysbert's character is monitoring police radio chatter during this time, and has no indication that an operation of that size is being mobilized, even though assembling that many police officers on a moment's notice and closing off streets to set a trap would absolutely require some kind of radio traffic. We even see Hanna on the radio directing his troops into position. Haysbert wouldn't have been able to warn the crew while they were in the bank, but wouldn't he have said something when they started to come out?

    Heat is a great movie, and the bank heist might be on the short list of best action scenes ever. But the timeline for it is all kinds of screwed up and doesn't add up. Too much has to happen in either simultaneously or, even generously, in too short a time for it all to sync up.
     
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