NFL offseason thread

You are missing the point. The gap between the talent around him and the talent on opposing defenses was huge, far larger than it will be in the NFL.

 

In the games I saw, Trask looked OK. But that's all, and a QB with Pitts should look better than that. Good enough for a second or third round choice, which ain't hay, but anyone who takes him on Thursday night will meet at least one skeptic - me.

 

So in college, a quarterback is not the most important player on an offense if his teammates are good, but in the pros, he'll be vitally important because his teammates can't possibly be superior to their opponents. Yeah, Jones played Vanderbilt and Kentucky and Mississippi St. He also played Georgia and Notre Dame and Ohio St., teams that were certainly NOT markedly inferior to Alabama unless Jones played well, which he did. I have no idea if Jones will be a good pro or not. I just find the idea of knocking him because he was on a great offensive team kind of odd. We don't say "Mahomes would be nothing without Hill and Kelce."

 

Also I think people have this image of Alabama producing perfect line play on every snap and whoa buddy it does not.

 

I'd rather be a Bears/etc. fan right now, your team is trying to find your QB of the future, can you luck into a Mahomes/Watson/Wilson/J. Allen/Jackson/Prescott/Rodgers/Roethlisberger/Brees/Herbert (neither of them top 5 picks)?

Instead, the brain trust of my fav team has just mortgaged the future for what all signs point towards a great tactician/thinker with just average athletic skills, not someone who can compensate for a leaky offensive line; a brain trust that has admired Kirk Cousins/CJ Beathard and ignored Mahomes/Watson/Brady.

 

The one part of the whole 49ers trading up saga I don't understand is why they decided Garoppolo just wouldn't do. Yeah, he's been hurt a lot. So have a lot of other 49ers. There has to be another reason. Shanahan isn't daft enough to think "well, Jimmy's just brittle, but if we run my offense with Jones (or Lance, Fields or whomever), he'll never get hurt."

 

So Justin Fields ended the season as the consensus #2 qb in the draft. Now he’s allegedly about to fall out of the first round?

 

While I understand your point, the Bears have been trying to find their QB of the future for 70 years.

 

I believe the chief reason is that Garrapolo isn't very good.

 

Understood.

 

Let's see. Three years as a starter, 22-8 record in games he started. Made a Super Bowl and was one missed pass, admittedly a poor throw, away from winning it. He's missed more games than he's played for San Francisco. That's a legitimate knock. But to say he's not good is simply not supported by the evidence.

 

When Garrapolo is out hurt Nick Mullins puts up stats that are damn near identical to Garrapolo's.

In that run to the Super Bowl Garrapolo was not good in the postseason. Over three games he threw two touchdowns and three interceptions. He averaged 142 yards per game. He was absolutely the weak link.

There is a reason they are desperately looking for a QB and it's not his health.