NFL offseason thread

Also at the time Manning's first contract was 6-years for right about $50M I believe...it shattered rookie contract records and he played it out completely before a nine-year $100M deal. So monetarily they were always all-in on him. It wasn't like they were in a spot where exercising team options was something that would have been available to them regardless.

 

It’s not about kicking him to the curb. It’s about whether he’s worth $35 million a year. If you’re paying a guy that much, it means he hast to be as productive as three or four players, because he’s eating that much of the cap. Mahomes is that good. There’s a reason Goff is no longer on the Rams and Wentz is longer on the Eagles. Both those guys took their teams to Super Bowls. Or at least played key roles and their teams getting there. Jackson has not even come close to doing that. Sign him that huge deal and you have just handicapped the rest of your roster, which can’t get there with Jackson at < $2.5mm a year. Goff and Wentz are probably why teams will be more reluctant to pull the trigger on the huge deals. And they should be more reluctant. Mayfield is the best quarterback the Browns have had in literally 30 years and they still won’t pull the trigger.

 

If Aaron Rogers gets traded, would Jared Goff be the best QB in the NFC North?

 

Why does wanting out make you a diva bitch?

 

Rodgers has always been professional. I am sure has valid reasons for wanting out of Green Bay - one being them drafting a QB.

That is not directed at you, btw.

 

Yup. Remember, we're talking about a guy who has cut off most of his family and won't say why. That said, it's obvious why no one would want to have to look your replacement in the eye every day for an indeterminate amount of time. And yet, I've always found the Love pick defensible. When your team is built around a 37-year-old who's already had two broken collarbones, you have to have a more viable Plan B than Scott Tolzien or Tim Boyle. The cap makes it nearly impossible for the Packers to trade him. I guess he could 'retire' if he wanted to.

 

I would bet Rogers has helped Love almost as much as Favre helped him

 

2011 marks a real turning point. That’s when the rookie cap began (thanks Sam Bradford!) and the name of the game became either win with one on a rookie deal or pay all the monies and watch the rest of the roster rot.

Eli Manning won the first Super Bowl after the switch, something of a last hurrah for the highly-paid veteran model. Since then it has been three QBs on a rookie deal, a cheap journeyman filling in for a starter on a rookie deal and Tom Brady and Peyton Manning as unicorns taking below-market deals because they wanted to chase trophies and knew their teams needed cap room to get there.

 

It doesn't. But hosting Jeopardy! might.

 

I think not discussing the reasons for the estrangement is wholly appropriate. Some things are best kept private, there is no need for a public referendum on who is in the wrong.

 

What Alex Smith did for Mahomes is definitely the exception. There is near zero mentoring of the replacement by the incumbent, and understandably so.

 

Goff and Wentz "took their teams to the Super Bowl" in the most liberal definition of that term of all time.

Lamar Jackson won a road playoff game by being the dominant player on the field about, oh, three months ago.

Good luck drafting that qb to take you to the super bowl with the 24th or so pick. Because the rest of the Ravens are pretty good.