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NFL offseason thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Splendid Splinter, Jan 11, 2021.

  1. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Do you really want argue that a QB is as easy to find as a RB?
     
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  2. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    Here's the list of non-1st round QBs who have won the Super Bowl since 2000: Brady, Foles, Wilson, Brees, Brad Johnson. And from a previous post I made, according to ESPN's Kevin Seifert, four of the 36 QBs drafted in rounds 2 and 3 since 2006 have made the Pro Bowl, which isn't an especially high bar to clear for a quality starter in the NFL. (Andy Dalton made one, for example.) The "success" rate of a first round QB is roughly 50-50, which I realize isn't great compared to other positions, but it gets much more dire when you get to later rounds (1-in-9, and probably worse for rounds 4 through 7). Football Outsiders also looked at it in 2017 - "Every NFL draft now comes with a reminder that Tom Brady was a sixth-round pick, yet among the 92 quarterbacks drafted in the fifth round or later since 2001, only three have thrown at least 1,000 passes: Derek Anderson, Matt Cassel, and Ryan Fitzpatrick."
     
  3. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    I listened to that Bradshaw interview live. He also called Rodgers “dumb as a box of rocks” and finally walked it back on the third chance the hosts gave him.
     
  4. Junkie

    Junkie Well-Known Member

    Not at all. And I'm not arguing that. But the notion that you should not draft a running back at a certain point because you can find good ones on the scrap heap is not accurate. Great players at every position have been found both ways.
     
  5. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    The spectrum of Bradshaw quotes is amazing. He can say the stupidest things... I mean complete idiocy, but, yet, he will also say things of complete brilliance.

    The Rodgers comments are idiotic, but, for some crazy reason, Bradshaw isn’t a complete fool.
     
  6. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    It's almost like his brain is damaged, either from age, or from playing a dangerous sport, or both.
     
  7. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    He’s always shot off his mouth.

    He has ADD it ADHD. He can’t help it.
     
  8. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    Don't tell me what to do, especially until you cure your own cranial-rectal fusion.
     
  9. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    It's been 35 years since Bradshaw played, 25 years since Johnson coached and 25 years since Howie played. I don't think I saw anyone on a pregame show in my youth who was more than 15 years beyond their NFL careers. I couldn't fathom having Otto Graham tell me about "today's NFL."
     
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  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Samuels is not close to what Bell was as a receiver, and he really can't do much as a runner. He had one monster game against the Patriots as a rookie, rushing for 142 yards on 19 carries. Put together his numbers from every other program in his career and Samuels has 317 yards on 112 carries, an average of 2.83 per attempt. He is not good.

    I've spoken with people who know a hell of a lot more about cancer than I do, and I haven't found anyone who thinks that the recovery from cancer has slowed Conner down. Maybe the combination of that with the torn ACL took a little, but he just isn't durable and he really doesn't have great vision. He is a pretty good running back. He certainly makes you want to root for him, and I hope he tears it up in Arizona. That said, I didn't really want the Steelers relying on him going forward.
     
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  11. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    This post is 100% true but fuck you fuck you fuck you; in the kajillion posts on this site none have ever made me feel as old as this one.
     
  12. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Bradshaw's clearly on for circus value. He at least appears to have fun.
     
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