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Movie plot holes

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Killick, Apr 24, 2021.

  1. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    Because that's not how time travel works in BttF. Once Old Biff gives Young Biff the almanac, it creates a paradox - Marty and Doc can't use the time machine to travel to the Ultimate Timeline, because Biff's actions have instead created the Craptastic Timeline. If they try to use the time machine to go to 2015, they'll end up in the "new" Craptastic Timeline. That's why they have to go to 1955, to basically snuff out the timeline divergence when it begins.

    Once they did this, they *could* go back to the Ultimate Timeline 2015 and prevent Old Biff from ever getting the almanac, but it's unclear if this would have any benefit anyway. We never go back to 2015, but presumably, Old Biff returns to 2015, but because of Doc and Marty's actions, his younger self receiving the almanac has no effect. He doesn't have access to the time machine again and lacks the skill or influence to create one himself.
     
  2. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    But my thinking is that both Ultimate Timeline and Craptastic Timelines begins on November 12, 1955. So why not go back to, say, November 11, 1955. Sit there for a few minutes, when the future is still the George is a nerd/ Lorraine is a drunk timeline. Then go forward to 2015 a few minutes before they did the first time, have Marty buy the book, which means that 2015 Biff cannot get it, and Crapastic 1985 cannot occur, then go back to Ultimate 1985 and burn the book.

    1955 Biff never gets the book, Marty still did his stuff in 1955 to get his parents together, George punches out Biff, and there’s no almanac to mess things up.
     
  3. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    Because multiple timelines *eventually* don't exist, at least with how BttF does time travel. Illustrated by the first movie, Marty can exist as his timeline starts to "fade," and it's represented by him literally fading out. Also, when there are multiple timelines, it's unclear if the DeLorean can differentiate between them.
     
  4. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Can't believe Marty didn't at least sneak a peek at a few 1985-86 sports results before he burned the book. Hell, what were Nicklaus' Masters odds?

    At least he could bet the 401(k) on the Cubs in 2015, however.
     
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  5. Killick

    Killick Well-Known Member

    Dammit. ... and the pendulum swings the other way!
     
  6. cyclingwriter2

    cyclingwriter2 Well-Known Member

    Just to add, I swear there was a deleted scene somewhere of Old Biff disappearing when he returned to the future after delivering the book aka his timeline was over because he altered young Biff’s life.
     
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  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    If the Vegas books put on betting odds of which city would get an NL expansion franchise, he could make out quite well by betting on Miami.
     
  8. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Would the order to Save Private Ryan really come from Washington DC and Chief of Staff General George C. Marshall within a week of D-Day?
     
  9. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Or Fridge would score a TD in SB XX - the very first SB prop bet (reportedly). Odds were 20-1
     
  10. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

  11. cyclingwriter2

    cyclingwriter2 Well-Known Member

    Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan. Everyone talks about Khan recognizing Checkov, whose character wasn’t on the show when the Khan episode aired. ( I can buy the fact that checkov was on board as an ensign and only later became part of the bridge crew) . But I found a bigger plot hole with the “trying to find a lifeless” planet thing. First, pretty much every damn planet and moon in ever solar system is lifeless. They didn’t need to search that far. Second, so they accidentally land on the wrong Khan planet because the old one blew up, and the orbits switched or something. Wouldn’t star fleet have known that’ Ie, hey there were 10 planets in this solar system, now there is nine. What’s up with that?

    that being said this is my favorite trek movie and as a middle-aged guy, a lot of Kirk’s restlessness on aging hits home now. Also, Nimoy was damn near perfect. The scene where he just walks off the bridge to save the ship is fantastically done. No words. No goodbyes. Just does it. As a viewer who knows what is happening now, it is expertly hidden of what he plans to do. Then when McCoy yells, “no human can survive in there,” Spock replies with “as you have often reminded me, I’m not human” with a perfect mix of anger and bravado that you think Spock will survive.
     
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  12. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    In Rocky III, the whole point of going to train in Apollo's gym was that Rocky had to abandon his plodding slug-it-out style and transform himself into a Creed-like bumblebee to beat Clubber Lang.
    And of course he does it with the swimming pool sequence, the jumping rope sequence, the running on the beach sequence where the concrete-footed Rocky starts outsprinting the Mercurial Creed in the waves.
    OK, the fight starts and the announcers rave that Rocky has slimmed down like a cruiserweight. Rocky sticks to his jab-and-dance game plan for about one round -- then goes right back to trading blasts in center ring with Clubber the rest of the fight. He adopts the alternate strategy of letting Clubber pound on his head until his arms get tired.
     
    Last edited: May 10, 2021
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