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Athletic, Axios talking merger?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by FileNotFound, Mar 26, 2021.

  1. Screwball

    Screwball Active Member

    Minimum salary at the NYT (assuming two years experience) appears to be 100K:

    2018 Reporter Top Minimum Salaries | The NewsGuild - CWA
     
  2. MeanGreenATO

    MeanGreenATO Well-Known Member

    For a while, a lot of folks over there hyped up each other's stories like they were Gary Smith features. It was comical but I got it. Maintaining that narrative is good for a start-up.
     
  3. Fdufta

    Fdufta Member

    Kinda like the narrative that the NYT might be interested in buying them is good for trying to sell elsewhere.
     
  4. ChadFelter

    ChadFelter Active Member

    Maybe. But the great thing about The Athletic is that you can personalize coverage that includes your local pro teams, your alma mater, your kid's college and that English soccer team you root for, plus great national coverage, all in one place for a flat subscription. To my knowledge, The Athletic's price is the same no matter how many markets/sports you follow. So while the actual reading habits might be segmented, a sub-package that only included The Athletic would be the same as the game/cooking package in business terms.
     
  5. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    I would think a natural merger partner for The Athletic would be MGM or Ballys or better yet, Score.
     
  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    You're missing the point. It is costly to cover all of those things. Yes, one subscription gets a reader a lot of coverage. But most people are really most interested in a small portion of that coverage -- they may be interested in only certain sports, or they may be just interested in only their city's sports teams. ... and as a result, they are not interested in a huge chunk of what the Athletic covers (while someone in another city will be interested in coverage of an entirely different group of sports teams).

    It's much costlier to offer that much coverage than it is for the NY Times to offer its cooking and games package. And someone was comparing it to that.

    I was saying that if you are trying to make that kind of comparison, the better way to do it might be to think of the Athletic as 50 different "cooking and games" sub packages (the different markets the Athletic is in) with each package having the equivalent of thousands of subscribers each (not the million-seven that he said the Times' cooking package has). The cost of producing that content for each of those different markets, when you break it out that way, might not look as attractive relative to the number of subscribers in each market.
     
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  7. ChadFelter

    ChadFelter Active Member

    I guess. But I think a lot of people are willing to pay for The Athletic subscription because it offers access to coverage of teams in different markets. People can pay that one price rather than pay for a few different newspaper websites (and the coverage in most cases is better than the local newspaper coverage). Each person can personalize it the way they want to.

    I’d be interested to know how many people would pay $60/year just to get one market. I don’t think I would. And if you made it a la carte (like, $2/month for me to follow my Chicago teams, another $1/month to follow Scott Dochterman’s Iowa coverage, another $1/month for Ken Rosenthal, etc.), I don’t they would make more money than charging the flat rate.

    I see what you’re saying about the costs, but The Athletic can (and has) cut coverage of teams that no one is reading about to make the operation more cost-effective. They don’t need to segment the payment structure to know what people are reading and not reading.
     
  8. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    You think so? I don't know if The Athletic has subscriber data, but I'd be curious if most of the subs build traffic towers on one team.

    The Athletic didn't merely tout broad coverage, but really distinct stuff. And...I haven't seen that. Most of the writers do what they always did. And it's really good stuff sometimes.
     
  9. ChadFelter

    ChadFelter Active Member

    I would be interested to see that data too. To me and others in my circles, the value of the subscription is the bundling of good content.

    If I just wanted my Chicago sports, I'd be deciding between the Trib and The Athletic. I'd probably go with The Athletic, but it's a toss up. Where it becomes a no-brainer is that I also get my Iowa football/basketball coverage and national college football coverage and Ken Rosenthal and Jayson Stark and that's all included in my subscription without the price going up.
     
  10. MeanGreenATO

    MeanGreenATO Well-Known Member

    The Athletic basically set out to be the go-to news outlet for sports fans. If you had a subscription, you could read all sorts of great stuff outside of your teams.

    That's great in theory but I wonder if the data suggests people don't really read other stuff. And if that's the case, the strategy might have to pivot.
     
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  11. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    I think the Athletic may ahead product ahead of its time.

    I am originally from Denver and have seen what has happened to the Denver Post sports section (If Alden gets control of the Tribune I suspect blood will flow in the sports sections of that chain). The Post is down to about eight reporters for the four pro teams (CU and CSU coverage is handled by sister papers.) One of the effects of those cutbacks is that national coverage has become pretty sparse at the Post. For example, the Athletic had an article the other day by Jayson Stark about the decline in baseball batting averages which I enjoyed. I don't see a lot of material like that in the Post which I believe gives the Athletic a comparative advantage.

    As Alden and other publishers continue to cut editorial staff at local papers I believe sports fans will have to turn to national outlets.
     
  12. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Where it pays off is if your teams aren’t all in the same market. Instead of subscribing to papers in Tuscaloosa, Nashville and Atlanta, I’m covered with one fee.
     
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