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Osaka on French Open interviews: No comment

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by MeanGreenATO, May 26, 2021.

  1. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    I am not in a position to believe or not believe her. I advise clients all of the time when it comes to accommodation of people with mental health issues in the workplace. Sometimes you can find a way around doing what is required for others and sometimes you can’t. Sometimes you may realize that what you thought was a required task isn’t actually essential.

    I do know that the issue can be complicated and saying “mental health issues” isn’t necessarily a force field which allows you to dictate the terms of what you have to do or not do. I was trying to explain that the fact that she was doing these other tasks in front of huge crowds perhaps clouded my judgment.

    I’ll give a couple of examples — after 9/11, a lot of people didn’t want to commute into Manhattan and/or work in a tall building because of anxiety. At the time, most employers couldn’t accommodate remote work and people had to come in or lose their jobs. We have dealt with a lot of clients pre-vaccine who wanted employees to come to the physical office and they refused because they were concerned about getting Covid and had significant anxiety issues. We tried to figure out what the obligation was to accommodate these concerns and how much proof/documentation we could require.
     
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  2. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    All important issues.
    Remember, Osaka was fined, threatened with expulsion from Grand Slams, and ultimately withdrew, because she refused to go to post match press conferences where she can be asked something like: "Why are you compared to the Williams sisters - is it because you are black?"
     
  3. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    That’s more than a bit of a strawman. You can argue that they are unnecessary, and perhaps they don’t yield gold every time, but they are an obligation which is agreed to and which required for all. I get that it isn’t like she’s asking for a third serve but it isn’t nothing and taking the worst possible question someone could ask isn’t evidence that the press conferences are merely forums for only racist or useless questions.
     
  4. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    It was an obligation which is agreed to, and noncompliance resulting in a fine, with which Osaka had no problem. It was then escalated.
     
  5. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Or, she might also be asked, "Good afternoon, Naomi. Thank you for your time, as always. What can you learn from a loss like today, and also, what makes Maria such a great competitor?"

    Or, "It's been so long since you've lost a match, more than a year, so I am just wondering how you are feeling about this and how you are processing this loss. I am guessing you have forgotten a little bit what it's like to lose after it having been such a lifetime ago, before the pandemic."

    Or, "So now you move onto clay. ... what are your thoughts on that? How are you planning on preparing for this surface, where you haven't won a title yet? What are you feeling about what it's going to take to do there, and what are your ambitions for clay this year?"

    Those were the first three questions after she got knocked out of the Miami Open.

    You'd think from listening to you that the occasional idiotic question is indicative of all of the questions she faces. And it's not like she couldn't just say, "next question," or handle it with poise the way Gauff did.

    This comes with playing tennis at that level. Fans are sometimes annoying, too. You have to deal with it.
     
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  6. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    I do, too. To this post, and related to Driftwood's opinion, though, I wonder what she has done since 2018 to address her issues? Besides deciding she's not going to do press conferences and having to leave a Grand Slam tournament because of it.

    There are ways to tackle depression so that it doesn't only have to be trotted out as a reason or explanation for things when it's convenient, and there are ways to address difficulties with public speaking (which I believe someone else also has mentioned/questions), as it is something you can learn, improve at, and which are mitigated by exposure and practice and opportunity, not by avoidance.

    I have sympathy for depression, but is a condition that doesn't, and probably shouldn't, only excuse you from the parts of your life that you find unappealing or hard. In fact, given her openness, her pressers, and the tenor of them, would be very likely to change, and, most likely, improve, maybe even to the point of not being a problem. Information and perspective changes a lot of things, and these 15-minute tasks can be, and have been, vehicles for both good, and bad.

    And, to a large extent, that can be up to the person being interviewed.
     
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  7. UPChip

    UPChip Well-Known Member

    Pete Sampras was shit on clay too but, he mumbled his way through interviews and overcame his low-grade voice immodulation.
     
  8. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Stupefyingly dull questions. The world would still continue to spin on its axis if these press questions never saw the light of day. We can all agree on that, correct?

    The woman says going to these press conferences negatively affects her mental health. I choose to believe her. Fine her, if need be. To escalate it to a 2nd round withdrawal is not the proper solution.
     
  9. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    I've spent six hours arguing. I get the points on the other side, just don't agree with most of them. Peace out. Not good for the mental health to spend a full day arguing on a message board.
     
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  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    1) Your opinion notwithstanding, her answers got wide play. She got quoted in stories, and clips of her ran on TV all over the world. Others did care, even if you personally find what she has to say to questions like those stupefyingly dull.
    2) Jesus, you are acting thick. It's not about believing her or disbelieving her. Nobody has said she's full of shit, pretending to have mental health issues. The issue is that those media obligations come with what she does. Tennis makes a lot of money; players see a lot of money. The tradeoff is that she is expected to sell the sport as well as play it. That means accommodating the media. It means putting up with annoying fans. It means being recognized, being questioned about your performance.
    3) They did fine her. It was her choice to withdraw. If she had handled it better, actually approached them and told them she was having anxiety and mental health problems rather than acting unilaterally and not giving that as a reason, maybe they could have found a better solution. But we can't know if that's true, because of her role in how it played out.

    She's a kid. She seems troubled. I have empathy for her, and hope she works it out. But her troubles are not a catch-all that absolves her from having to learn how mature people deal with things, or making sure you have people around you who can help if you aren't equipped to do it yourself. She had people around her who were able to earn her about $50 million in endorsements last year. It's all part and parcel of the same thing.
     
  11. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Good one, Jacob Silj.
     
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  12. UPChip

    UPChip Well-Known Member

    As someone who has been accused of being voice immodulated, that is one of my favorite underrated SNL bits of that era.
     
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