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Muh Muh Muh My Corona (virus)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Twirling Time, Jan 21, 2020.

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  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    In Soviet Russia, Newspaper Prints You!
     
    Baron Scicluna, Jun 9, 2021
    #21013
  2. Octave

    Octave Well-Known Member

    College choo-choo flunkout
    advises against vaccine,
    is taken seriously A13
     
    Octave, Jun 9, 2021
    #21014
  3. SoloFlyer

    SoloFlyer Well-Known Member

    A Nobel prize-winning US biologist, who has been widely quoted describing a “smoking gun” to support the thesis that Covid-19 was genetically modified and escaped from a Wuhan lab, has said he overstated the case.

    Leading biologist dampens his ‘smoking gun’ Covid lab leak theory

    "Baltimore’s clarification came as he was also challenged in Nature on another of his claims relating to Covid-19, that the coding of a segment found in the furin cleavage site was not usually found in viruses, with a fellow scientist pointing out the same coding was also a feature of the Sars virus."
     
    SoloFlyer, Jun 9, 2021
    #21015
  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Once again. ... when someone like him gives evidence of something (whatever it is), try to understand the evidence and what it may or may not suggest. Don't rely on their characterization of the evidence.

    Once again, part II: If you are looking at the sequence of the virus for an answer about where it came from, you are not going to find a "smoking gun" or anything that proves the origin one way or the other. There are things about this virus' sequence that suggest that either theory is a possibility.
     
    The Big Ragu, Jun 9, 2021
    #21016
  5. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    I believe it took more than a decade to identify how ebola originated. That's without an efficient totalitarian state anxious to cover up any evidence for either theory.
     
    Michael_ Gee, Jun 9, 2021
    #21017
  6. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    “Ah, David Baltimore, the Maryland Mucus. He once published a study on the Coxsackie Disease. In the New England Journal of Medicine. While living in Portland.”

    “Portland, Maine?”

    “No, Portland, Oregon. The guy in Portland, Maine was his cousin, Ernest Rutherford, nicknamed “East” who presented a well-received paper on the element Californium, while in Germany.”

    “All I know is, never bet on the BET Theory.”
     
    Baron Scicluna, Jun 9, 2021
    #21018
  7. SoloFlyer

    SoloFlyer Well-Known Member

    Just in case you misunderstood, the reason I shared the link is because this guy was a big proponent of the lab leak theory being the only explanation.

    Now, after being challenged, he's walking that back, further opening the door to there being a possible natural explanation rather than a lab leak.
     
    SoloFlyer, Jun 9, 2021
    #21019
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  8. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

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    Spartan Squad, Jun 9, 2021
    #21020
  9. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

     
    Della9250, Jun 9, 2021
    #21021
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  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I understood.

    These guys have a lot to offer. ... they can sequence the DNA or look at the sequencing work that someone else did, and use their experience to offer their opinions about the characteristics of the virus and what they are consistent with.

    But this was no different than those scientists who wrote the letter to the Lancet and saw the exact opposite. ... that there were characteristics of the virus that were consistent with a natural origin, which they then took to say that if you questioned that you were a conspiracy theorist. The problem wasn't with their expertise, which was valuable. It was with them making definitive statements that didn't follow from the actual evidence they presented. The "smoking gun," and "conspiracy theories" characterizations. They should have known better. They were giving pieces of a puzzle and making conclusions that implied they were presenting the whole puzzle. What I was suggesting is that people don't just rely on their characterizations, even if they know way more about viruses than any of us do. The evidence they are offering is the valuable part, not the part that everyone focuses on.
     
    The Big Ragu, Jun 9, 2021
    #21022
  11. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    Yeah lady, and a bottle cap will stick to your forehead, if your forehead is even a bit sweaty. It's a trick I discovered 40 years ago. Try it if you don't believe me.
     
    micropolitan guy, Jun 9, 2021
    #21023
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  12. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    The libertarian twitter feed calling for child labor, seen on the left, and Gary Johnson, right.

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    Hermes, Jun 9, 2021
    #21024
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