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Running racism in America thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Scout, May 26, 2020.

  1. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    All right, okay, he-he-he . Very good to see you down in New Orleans, man. Yeah, here it is, yeah, yeah
     
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  2. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    How does CRT reconcile the abolitionist movement in the United States and the non-slave States? If the US was instituted as a white supremacist nation to maintain chattel slavery, how did more than half the white population reject slavery?
     
  3. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Don't know the answer but Freddie Douglass sure was lucky.
     
  4. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    CRT makes no such assertion.
     
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  5. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member


    I think you're overestimating the size of the abolitionist movement.

    Nevertheless: Cotton ruined all - Cottton which couldn't be grown in Northern States.

    The North spent the first half the 1800s industrializing. The South spent those same years buying more slaves to grow more cotton, despite the pleas of Southern economists and capitalists.
     
  6. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Laws upheld slavery throughout New England before the American Revolution. Soon after, however, Northern states outlawed chattel slavery. Vermont’s constitution abolished slavery in 1777 and Massachusetts’ 1780 constitution declared that all men were born free and equal, which its courts interpreted as abolition in 1783. Other states followed suit with emancipation laws—Pennsylvania in 1780, Rhode Island and Connecticut in 1784, New York in 1799, and New Jersey in 1804. This wave of emancipation laws occurred quite early in the international age of abolition. It is essential to remember, however, as Joanne Pope Melish showed so well in Disowning Slavery, that most of these laws sanctioned gradual emancipation. Slavery survived until the 1860s in some parts of North.

    If by abolitionist movement you mean the active campaign and participation in ending slavery, yes, it wasn’t widespread. Most northerns were trying to live their lives and didn't have the time or money to political. In other words, they weren’t privileged with free time. Most Americans didn’t care, it wasn’t a conspiracy of white suprematism, it indifference. They just didn’t give it much of a thought except they didn’t want it.

    This is what privilege looks like in Baltimore.

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  7. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

    ... and while many Northerners were abolitionists - because they saw how slaves were treated and recognized the disconnect between "all men are created equal" and "we're going to own some of those people - much, much fewer saw black Americans as their equal.

    There was a whole lot of "OK - let's not own slaves, but that doesn't mean we really want black people here."
     
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  8. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Lol more of that racism.

     
  9. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

    Simone Biles agrees - America just won't support black athletes.

    It's got absolutely nothing to do with the fact that women's basketball is pretty terrible.
     
  10. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Just so we’re clear, Critical Race Theory says there are laws and policies in our society that intentionally or otherwise perpetuates racism and social inequality among the races. It is therefore up to government to change those policies to level the playing field and society will be forced to follow. CRT makes zero assertions about the history of slave laws and who outlawed it and who advocated for abolition. If anything, CRT wants more examples of that. What it does say is even though those places were against slavery doesn’t mean they didn’t make it hard for Blacks and other minorities through policies that disenfranchised people.

    So get off your gotcha horse about CRT because you’re barking up the wrong tree here.
     
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  11. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    What does this mean?
     
  12. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member


    It means your sarcasm detector needs a tweek.
     
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