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Running racism in America thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Scout, May 26, 2020.

  1. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member


     
  2. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    That’s an after the fact rationalization. Crack penalties were a fixed to weights and quantities because, generally, smaller quantities of crack were as powerful as relatively larger quantities of powder. While crack wasn’t more physically addictive than powder, users weren’t as recreational in their useage. the violence associated with crack was significantly greater than powder.

    everyone forgets that when crack was destroying communities in the 90’s, and crack babies were being born and the homicide rate was twice what it is today that the very communities that hated the sentencing disparities now were very much in favor of them in the 90s. Same with police in schools. It wasn’t the cops who wanted to be in schools, they hated the idea of babysitting high schools. It was the community and politicians that wanted cops in schools.

    You get what you ask for. Tough on crack and cops in schools was the activist agenda.

    And I know you can’t jail your way out of crime, we tried that and it really didn’t work. It lowered the crim rate and the murder rate, but the collateral damage evened out the benefits.

    Acid/LCD carries greater penalties than weed and hash.
     
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  3. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    False.

    ... a friend told me.
     
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  4. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    Mmmhmmm. And there wasn't more crack in the inner city because it was much cheaper than powder cocaine? Keep spinning.
     
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  5. Amy

    Amy Well-Known Member

    In 1991, the Minnesota Supreme Court held the criminal statute providing different treatment of powder and crack cocaine had a discriminatory impact in its application and, therefore, was unconstitutional.

    State v Russell, 477 N.W.2d 886 (1991)

    “The trial court found that crack cocaine is used predominantly by blacks and that cocaine powder is used predominantly by whites.[1] As a result, a far greater percentage of blacks than whites are sentenced for possession of three or more grams of crack cocaine under Minn.Stat. § 152.023 with more severe consequences than their white counterparts who possess three or more grams of cocaine powder. The trial court concluded that the law has a discriminatory impact on black persons.

    The trial court then determined that no rational basis supported the distinction between crack-cocaine and cocaine powder and that the law therefore violated constitutional guarantees of equal protection … We affirm.”
     
  6. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    It's also quite possibly the greatest invention in humankind. #30for30
     
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  7. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  8. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Disparate impact found by a single state. No discriminatory intent in enacting the statutes just disproportionate results. Additional conclusions can be drawn as well.
     
  9. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    "No discriminatory intent." Fuck you.
     
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  10. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    The law concluded that there was discriminatory impact. The court did not find discriminatory intent.
    Disparate impact produces a legal fiction or per se inference of intent without actually proving intent.
     
  11. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Because it was targeting Black people, amirite?
     
  12. lakefront

    lakefront Well-Known Member

    lost my post......throughout my life during conversations with people i am just meeting, they have felt very comfortable bringing up their racism, as if they assume i will go along with it. i can tell when it's coming and try to get out of it before it happens. next time i will just tell them that i am a liberal.

    does anyone have that happen?
     
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