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2021 NHL off-season thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Splendid Splinter, Jul 13, 2021.

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  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Yeah. I totally forgot that Jerry Colangelo bought and moved the team. It was during that period in the 90s when I was barely paying attention to the NHL.
     
    The Big Ragu, Aug 20, 2021
    #157
  2. matt_garth

    matt_garth Well-Known Member

    Find someone as committed to you as Gary Bettman is committed to keeping the Coyotes in Arizona.
     
    matt_garth, Aug 20, 2021
    #158
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  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The Big Ragu, Aug 20, 2021
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  4. Tighthead

    Tighthead Well-Known Member

    Quebec won't get a team. The Peledeaus are always floated as owners and by all accounts Bettman wants no part of them. Maybe a different ownership group would have a shot, but the Peledaus operate the rink.

    I don't think Portland works. Having your only two major sports with almost fully overlapping seasons is a problem.
     
    Tighthead, Aug 20, 2021
    #160
  5. Tighthead

    Tighthead Well-Known Member

    I think comparing goalies pre and post Patrick Roy is almost impossible. I don't know that any position in sport has undergone such a radical transformation.
     
    Tighthead, Aug 20, 2021
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  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    That is true.

    I think you have to put them into the context of the game when they were playing, and then like everything when it comes to these kinds of beer and peanuts debates, it's a matter of opinion.

    I think Patrick Roy is in a class by himself. After that, it's difficult for me, because I didn't actually see someone like Jacques Plante or Terry Sawchuk play.

    But sort of spitballing it, but I'd go Roy as 1, no questioning myself about it. ... and then try to figure out where Ken Dryden, Marty Brodeur, Domink Hasek, Plante, Sawchuk fit in on the list below him. amd who else I am missing. One curiousity to me is how, or if, you include Vladislov Tretiak on the list.

    I love Hank, but I think he slips down the list a bit.
     
    The Big Ragu, Aug 20, 2021
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  7. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Hasek is far and away the best goalie ever, IMO. The difference between him and any other goalie through his peak was greater than any other goalie from any era.
     
    JC, Aug 20, 2021
    #163
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  8. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

     
    dixiehack, Aug 20, 2021
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  9. Tighthead

    Tighthead Well-Known Member

    That’s pretty much how it goes. There’s also been a lot of really good goalies who are tough to rank, it sort of goes in tiers. But trying to compare say, Cheevers to Luongo, is impossible.

    It’s pretty crazy that the position took so long to get technically rational. Goaltending can lose you a lot of games.

    I’ve always held Tretiak in high regard, and he likely ranks at the top of the list for mystique. I have also heard a few people break down his career and suggest that he wasn’t all that special. I do know that when the Habs drafted him I was excited.
     
    Tighthead, Aug 20, 2021
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  10. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    Completely agree.

    Give me "I need a goalie to steal me a game" and the answer will always be Dominik Hasek. He made more "holy sh_t" and "how did he come up with that?" saves than any other goalie by miles.

    Watched him do it in person in Raleigh a few times. He once had Paul Maurice, not the hottest head in a million years, so POed that he looked at the media and said "four of those went off the pipes. There's no way he knows those are going off the pipes."

    Hasek, upon hearing that, responded "they pay me to protect the inside of the pipes, not the outside."

    Thing is, this wasn't a one-time occurrence. There's good reason for that.
     
    Sam Mills 51, Aug 20, 2021
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  11. Sea Bass

    Sea Bass Well-Known Member

    Tough to argue that.
     
    Sea Bass, Aug 20, 2021
    #167
  12. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

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    Jake from State Farm, Aug 28, 2021
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