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The exact moment that Jason Whitlock stopped mattering

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Thrilla_in_Vanilla, Sep 24, 2020.

  1. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    “Mattering,” in the context of this board, translates for me to “no longer believing and writing the things sports journalists are supposed to believe and write.”

    As in, he doesn’t matter because he’s no longer on the right side of larger journalistic cause to make the world a better place, which is now the purpose of journalism.
     
  2. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    He gets 27 pages on this board because it's a board for sports journalists and he used to be a sports journalist.

    The general public has no clue who he is. He's just the fat Uncle Tom guy in the fedora.
     
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  3. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Alma trying to turn this into a woke vs. non-woke thing is the most predictable thing since sp posted another Hat Guy missive.
     
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  4. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The first post of the entire thread, started in 2020, said the day Jason Whitlock stopped mattering was the day Colin Kaepernick did not respond to his two-minute ramble in…2016.
     
  5. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    OK, and?

    Go ahead, finish your thought. Why is that woke vs. not woke?
     
  6. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  7. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The entire thread has been about Whitlock's cultural and political views. The thread did not start with "Whitlock doesn't land the plane on his column so much as parachute out of them mid-flight." (Which is a legitimate criticism.) It started where it started.

    I'm not even suggesting most of the folks on the board are wrong about some or many of his positions. I am saying...the guy's political views are why, in this thread, he doesn't matter. "Mattering," in this case, is being a thought leader. He is not viewed as being a leader because the wrong thoughts about things.
     
  8. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Are they about Whitlock’s political and cultural views or are they about what Whitlock pretends are his political and cultural views?
     
  9. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Most of the people in the thread seem to think they're actually his views. But even if - according to you - he's pretending, it's...still about the views.

    If the argument is "Person X stopped mattering for 27 pages when they became wildly insincere for the sake of profit" then we'd have a lot of 27-page threads about a lot of people.
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    He was an outspoken sports columnist who worked his way into being a TV hot take guy because of his ability to be provocative. ... and proceeded to blow through several jobs. ... with his ego never wavering. ... and finally ending up with that Clay Travis thing, which kind of predictably (at that point) lasted less than half a year? ... and he now is writing for an alt-right website, and has become the black guy who goes on Fox News to act like a provocateur.

    Maybe he still matters. ... Tucker Carlson puts him on the air and makes pouty faces while Whitlock makes unreasoned, provocateurish statements. But in terms of the career trajectory he was on 15 years ago, it looks a bit like a highway crash, which is where I think people on this thread are coming from. Highway crashes matter, too. Rubberneckers stare and cause traffic jams because of them.
     
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  11. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    If you think it isn’t obvious Whitlock is playing a role, at least in part, then we’re dealing with two sets of realities. Not much point in discussing it further.
     
  12. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    I don't know if Jason Whitlock ever "mattered". I don't think many commentators "matter". But I think he used to write a really good football wrap-up column every week.

    But just for the hell of it this week I listened to his podcast. He was discussing Cam Newton getting cut said and Newton did not have the gravitas and leadership abilities to be a successful NFL quarterback. Perhaps. But in 2015 Newton was the MVP on a team that lead the league in points scored and went to the Super Bowl. Was Newton listening to Bach and wearing dark, three piece suits that season? That was not that included in the discussion.

    Whitlock also did not discuss that Newton was an NFL starting quarterback making twenty million dollars a year until he got hurt at the end of the 2018 season. Newton then missed the 2019 season, got waived and then signed a very inexpensive contract. Maybe his decline has something to do with his injuries.

    Instead Whitlock perpetuated a stereotype. It is certainly possible to make money perpetuating stereotypes. We live in a media marketplace here you can earn a lot of money if you hit a small market segment.
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2021
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