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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    It's a gift.
     
  2. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    I remember flying into Phoenix about ten years ago. All the desert and mountains in shades of brown and khaki, and then BOOM! Emerald green golf courses start appearing, vividly green and alive.

    I shudder to think how much water that takes in that environment.
     
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  3. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    The Bay Area housing market is as crazy as they come. First tech guys want to live close-ish to their jobs where they can take public transit in or catch a company bus. Then they are getting six figures to work at those tech jobs, so they can afford a higher priced house. Then we don't have many homes available, so when one is for sale, people get into bidding wars to scoop it up and the house sells very quickly (usually). And the tech guys can afford to drive up the cost of the bidding wars since they have more wiggle room on their mortgages or can just throw cash down. Compounding all of this (at least it was true in 2014 when I bought), money from China is flowing in to buy a house so people can park money here rather than there. And they throw down cash, buy quick and can afford inflated housing prices.

    In turn—and I think HanSen mentioned it—this pushes people who can't afford San Jose-Mountain View-Cupertino housing prices to go south or east (I guess north as well, but I don't know Marin and Sonoma Counties as well) which drives up property values in those places, driving people further in those directions. Curious how much longer it can last. I guess water will eventually force tech companies to reconsider where they set up shop and the ease of remote work could change things as well. All I know is my house is worth easy $300,000 more today than when I bought 7 years ago but there's no where in my city I can move with the equity that will be a worth while upgrade. I eventually will need a little more room, but to get it will basically max out what I will pull out and have to hope my wife lands a high paying job with her law degree she'll have next summer.
     
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  4. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    It's not an insignificant amount, obviously, but course superintendents in the desert are generally very good stewards of water. And golf in Arizona is a multi-billion-dollar industry that provides thousands of jobs and brings in gobs of tourism money. It's all a tradeoff -- though of course the net/net is generally awful for the country because of all the fuels it takes to get people around, not to mention the water.
     
  5. ChrisLong

    ChrisLong Well-Known Member

    When I worked at the Daily Breeze (office was in SW Torrance), all the part-timers complained about how much apartments were, etc. The vision of working in the South Bay is Hermosa, Manhattan, Redondo, surfing, bikini beach babes ...
    As a veteran, I just told them that they didn't have to live at the beach. There were plenty of nice, safe places in Gardena or Carson or Hawthorne or San Pedro. Live there, you can always go to the beach.
     
  6. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    I want a deep dive on the people who paid for this.

     
  7. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    Pretty sure Don Jr.’s AmEx black might have $100,000 worth of charges on it.
     
  8. MTM

    MTM Well-Known Member

    In SoCal, many golf courses use recycled water -- basically poop water -- on golf courses. The water can't be used for drinking and in households, but it's a way to reclaim waste water. I wonder if that's the case in Arizona too.
     
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  9. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    That's the case almost everywhere. There's a myth out there that golf courses just wantonly waste water, and it can't be further from the truth.
     
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  10. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    I do think we’ll get to the point where only greens and fairways are watered. People do need to get over a vision of a course looking like Augusta.

    Most modern courses are getting better and better at taking water usage into account.
     
  11. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    What they also discover is not everyone who moves to Montana or Idaho from California is a conservative. Trump defeated Biden in Ada County (Boise) 50-46 in 2020. He beat Hillary 48-39 in 2016, so the GOP's margin of victory was cut from nine points to four points in only four years. Lots of stupid people in Idaho (Spokane hospitals are being overrun by unvaccinated Idahoans who can't get beds in CDA) but it's getting bluer.

    Bozeman and Missoula are blue, and growing.
     
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  12. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    Charge them about $10 a gallon. Revenge of the Rust Belt.
     
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